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    Tell me what you think is wrong with this new piece.

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    • Eric Castleman
      Eric Castleman last edited by

      I really love all of these replies. It verifies that my own thoughts are on track. That is exactly what I wanted to get out of this. Much of what was said here are things I right away thought about, so I now have verification that my mind is somewhat right 😉

      @Jana this is something I was pondering, as well as changing the rat into a cat, just because a lot of people that see this image mentions the Pied Piper. Thanks for the advice, I will totally make that change 🙂

      @mattramsey Awesome insight! Yes, Lee White is definitely the artist I am modeling myself a bit after. This piece is probably the most Lee White I have done. Prior to coming to SVS, my art was very much Quentin Blake like. I went from more of a comic book style to a very loose inking style, which Quentin Blake calls freewilling style. I would say that Quentin Blake is much more loose than Lee White is, but Lee's work is much more beautiful imho. Sp I am trying to find the middle ground. I love what you had to say here. It is something that helps me tune in on my goal a big more.

      @kimchizerbe yes, great point! One of the reasons I somewhat worry about highlights, is that I suck at keeping bright colors in dark places in wagercolor, so my design tends to not include much of it. I will mess with this digital version a little, then when I do the traditional painting, I take a photo and out some yellow on the roof, and maybe end up using some colored pencils to get that effect. Thanks for the insight!!

      Thanks everyone!!!!!

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      • Lee White
        Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG last edited by

        eric, are you in the illustration 1 class? We will be going over a ton of ways to solve composition problems.

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        • Eric Castleman
          Eric Castleman @Lee White last edited by

          @Lee-White I am not. I wish I could be, but atm I am strapped. Christmas, then my wife's birthday falls week after XMas (shoot me).

          However, I will print and sale this image to you for $500 😉

          But in all seriousness, I will definitely be in your watercolor class once that gets going, and am sorry I can't be involved with this one. Any chance to learn from you I want to be able to capitalize on.

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          • Eric Castleman
            Eric Castleman last edited by

            @Jana @mattramsey @kimchizerbe. Here is the reworked piece. I think I might bring the right side of the foreground a bit more in. Besides that, how does this look?

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            • mattramsey
              mattramsey last edited by

              I think that works a lot better actually!

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              • anthemsweet
                anthemsweet last edited by

                I like the composition better, but I do think the mouse should be there instead of the cat. As a closeup silhouette the mouse taking up the space feels closer and makes the picture feel deeper. The moment felt more intimate with the mouse there. (Am I making sense?) Also, the fiddler is a grasshopper (am I correct?) so the cat seems out of scale.

                I love the color and painting style in the original. I hope that is not changing. 🙂

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                • Ed O
                  Ed O last edited by

                  Thant looks better, @Eric-Castleman !

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                  • Jana
                    Jana last edited by

                    @Eric-Castleman
                    I like the composition better now. 🙂 If you plan to bring some more things on the right side, be careful not to push the fiddler more to the middle. You might add something only to the bottom right corner. Is that what you meant?
                    Actually I am not sure if I interpreted right that the mouse was the shadow on the roof or is it the real mouse (or cat now)?

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                    • kimchizerbe
                      kimchizerbe last edited by

                      definitely seems like a better balance and more dynamic composition to me now.

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                      • Eric Castleman
                        Eric Castleman last edited by

                        Trying a different style, and am wondering what you all my think. I am using gouache and colored pencils.

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                        • smceccarelli
                          smceccarelli Pro SVS OG last edited by

                          Love the texture of the tiles and the color palette!

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                          • evilrobot
                            evilrobot SVS OG @Eric Castleman last edited by

                            @Eric-Castleman I really dig this. I was thinking you could tell a bit more story if you had a trail of little mice behind the fiddle player...almost like he's the pied piper like character and the cat is watching all the little mice with great interest.

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                            • Eric Castleman
                              Eric Castleman @evilrobot last edited by

                              @smceccarelli thank you! Trying gouache and colored pencils really surprised me as to how neat of textures I could pull off.

                              @evilrobot great insights. I was thinking a something similar as well. I was going to add a mouse next to the cat, to insinuate that the music was so good that they stopped and enjoyed it together.

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                              • Eric Castleman
                                Eric Castleman last edited by

                                I finished it digitally, but am very conflicted about using filters. I went overboard I feel, but can't help but love the final outcome. Any thoughts on using filters?

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                                • Jana
                                  Jana @Eric Castleman last edited by

                                  I really love the poses of the fiddler and the cat and the graphic style of the whole piece.:-)
                                  But somehow I liked the shyness of the original piece more than the digital version. I find the texture in the sky a bit too much.

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                                  • Dulcie
                                    Dulcie SVS OG last edited by

                                    I love this style with the gouache and pencils, it's very clean and defined yet textured. I actually prefer the earlier version - the finished one has some really nice finishing touches, yet I like the gentleness of the first piece, and the soft sunset feel of the colours. Maybe you could turn the opacity down on your filter layers, or do it selectively so that the man in the moon has the highest contrast, but it's more restful elsewhere. But great work overall! 🙂

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                                    • Leontine
                                      Leontine @Eric Castleman last edited by

                                      @Eric-Castleman I love the design and the background, the sketchy scrappy feel. The rooftop texture is a bit distracting. Perhaps you can find inspiration in The credits of Pixars Ratatouille and Tangled?

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtUdm3TLZ8

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