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    • Asyas_illos
      Asyas_illos @Griffin McPherson last edited by Asyas_illos

      @Griffin I’m curious about the lost life jacket, is it falling or already in the water? Even though we are as the sun, I like the subtle hint of shadows you have for the gulls I think you should do the same for the boat even if it is barely visible, as well as dog and the life jacket if it is falling that is. Looks great though!

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      • Griffin McPherson
        Griffin McPherson @Asyas_illos last edited by

        @Asyas_illos was just working on exactly that before I saw your reply! Here’s where it’s at now, does it look a bit more clear? The jacket is actually meant to be in the water not falling through the air so I want to make sure that’s coming across or maybe it would be more interesting if it were falling instead of in the water?F9FD8583-3B8E-48E1-9977-3D2D1D06CB23.jpeg

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        • Asyas_illos
          Asyas_illos @Griffin McPherson last edited by

          @Griffin if it had the right shadow depth falling could work too. I think since they appear to be cutting through the water and there’s lots of movement be sure to show some of that with the life jacket also.

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          • Asyas_illos
            Asyas_illos @Griffin McPherson last edited by

            @Griffin or perhaps just fallen you submerge a corner and have splashes coming up? Just some suggestions☺️

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            • Kristen Lango
              Kristen Lango last edited by

              Nice work Griffin! I like that you were brave enough to tackle this point of view. There is something about that color blue that doesn't read as a bright sunny day to me🤔 that's supposed to be the water, right? Maybe it's the grey undertone that gives me the impression that the sky is overcast. I wonder too, are the white brush strokes an indication of speed? I ask because right now they could almost read as the water reflecting clouds in the sky. I've strayed away from drawing water for these reasons, so good on you for taking on the task! Again, lovely work! It gives me a Luca vibe 🙂

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              • Griffin McPherson
                Griffin McPherson @Kristen Lango last edited by

                @Kristen-Lango thanks for the feedback! The broad white strokes are meant to be reflected clouds and the ones around the boat are crashing water from the wake. I think you may be right about the grey undertone of the water. I made it a cooler, lower saturation to contrast the brightness of everything else but since it’s a reflection of the sky which is a bright sunny day then I should probably make the water more saturated.

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                • Griffin McPherson
                  Griffin McPherson last edited by

                  I think I’m about done here. Added a bunch of blue highlights to unify the image and make things pop a bit more, hopefully they’re not distracting. I also added the reflection of the sale to give the water some more variety. Let me know if you see any issues please!
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                  • patricialamas
                    patricialamas last edited by

                    That is a really neat but difficult perspective! Something I’d do to push the appearance of a sunny day in addition to saturating the blues would be warming up the parts that are receiving direct sunlight, especially where they are closer to the viewer. Right now the figures still have sort of a grey/green cast to me, and I think a soft orange overlay in some places would do the trick. James Gurney’s book Color and Light does an amazing job of explaining how you can capture atmospheric lighting in scenes with different weather!

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                    • Kristen Lango
                      Kristen Lango @Griffin McPherson last edited by

                      @Griffin I like what you did by adding that yellow reflection of the sail 👍

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                      • marek.halko
                        marek.halko last edited by

                        @Griffin i think, if you want to make it look like bright sunny day, you need more value separation between planes, that are hit by strong direct sun, and planes, that are in not hit by sun light. There have to be hard cast shadows as well.
                        In the scenario of POV in your picture and sun light coming from top, the water is hit by sun, but because it is more translucent and deep, it wont get really bright in value, if will just get more saturated in color. There might be strong spot reflections from small waves though. There shouldnt be any reflecrion from clouds in this set up. If clouds are above the water, they would just block the sun and create cast shadows.
                        I think, it is always helpful to use some photo reference, if you want to achieve certain light scenario.
                        In your POV, the perspective is not easy, so you might be carefull with sizing of objects (for instance the livejacket looks a bit big, if floating on water).For the birds, their cast shadows, can help to imply their size.

                        Maybe something like that? (sorrry for messing up with your drawing)
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                        • Asyas_illos
                          Asyas_illos @marek.halko last edited by

                          @marek-halko nice @Griffin i was going to mention this also, that there should probably be more highlights or brighter saturation on certain surfaces.

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                          • Griffin McPherson
                            Griffin McPherson @marek.halko last edited by

                            @marek-halko thanks so much! Your version captures the brightness and colors I’ve been trying to get. I really tried to find reference to help me with this but I couldn’t find many images that were just looking down at the ocean like this to give me an idea of how light and reflection work at this angle. Your advice and re-paint are super helpful, can’t thank you enough!

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                            • Griffin McPherson
                              Griffin McPherson @marek.halko last edited by

                              @marek-halko After seeing your re-paint of it I’m wondering now if I should change my composition a bit to have more of the sail in the image like yours does. It might make the the illustration read more clearly I think

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                              • Kristen Lango
                                Kristen Lango @Griffin McPherson last edited by

                                @Griffin What he said ^ 😄 the he being @marek-halko

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                                • Larue
                                  Larue last edited by

                                  I've been out of town so sorry for the late feedback. Love the perspective and I won't tag onto stuff already mentioned but to me I'm confused by the person down below on how it looks like he's holding the end of the pole with his hand, almost like he's waving a flag in the air. I think you want it to read as a pole connecting solidly into the boats hull down by his feet. I think if you could show the tips of his toes and maybe a washer with bolts attaching the "pole" to the boat there wouldn't be any confusion.

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                                  • marek.halko
                                    marek.halko last edited by

                                    @Griffin the perspective is quite challenging, but i think, it fits perfectly for the story moment. i think my paint over would need a lot of adjustment and i dont know, if the sail size is necesarilly helping the composition, i just though, it might be smaller. But the composition in the end depends on value contrast, so playing with light and local color can help a lot to get composition, you like. Good luck!

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