August 3rd Thursday
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@mattramsey I think you are raising a very good point - which is about context clues. I totally agree that if Manchess had just painted Dorothy that way by herself, nobody would have made the connection with Oz. Even with the red shoes. The other three characters (Tinman, scarecrow and lion) are also very very remote from the original, but when you put them together, some people may make the connection...probably still not everybody. It´s the winged monkey that does it for me. I see I winged monkey, I immediately think Oz. So one thought may be that it is the winged monkey the iconic character that drives the context. Also, Spectrum was doing an Oz-themed expo that year, so that would be an additional clue for the audience of Spectrum specifically.
If I saw a young girl with a blue dress, red shoes and braids, would I immediately think Dorothy? I am not sure....maybe if she was also holding a white little dog, and I had seen the film, then I would think Oz. So how much of these clues can you sacrifice by introducing other context clues (like the four characters together, or winged monkeys?). It also connects with the thought that Disney artists have expressed, that the main character in a story is always the least "iconic" of all, because it has to drive the identification of the audience and reflect the viewer.
Ok, I am getting very philosophical (which is always a risk with me), but you have raised a whole train of thought that I think is very interesting!
Maybe here I have sacrificed too many context clues for the audience to connect with Oz on a first read. If the parrot was a winged monkey maybe? -
@smceccarelli said in August 3rd Thursday:
If the parrot was a winged monkey maybe?
That. Would. Be. Awesome!
I was reading your response and I was liking the points you were making and then I got to that idea of yours and my mind got blown.
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And here is the final ...I think...I hope. I have re-done the lion face and arms completely: they were definitely off.
And of course, could not resist the idea of a winged monkey-parrot....
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@smceccarelli Amazing!
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@smceccarelli Absolutely mind blowingly great! That switch to the winged monkey "parrot" is awesome!!! These are just pure fun!!!
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That winged monkey parrot is genius! Great switch, I love the way it is designed and rendered with the gorgeous red and green! It was already an amazing piece, now even better.
Oh, I also noticed that you changed the lion's jawline/teeth, and eye - looks much better! It's also great that it now looks like the lion has been given a fright by the winged monkey
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What a great change! You really nailed it. I wish I had something more constructive to say but I love it.
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Wonderful! And I agree gotta have the flying monkey.. and that Lion freaking out over it is a great capture.
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Absolutely gorgeous work!
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You've nailed this one. Excellent job.
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Ha, signed on just in time to see your crit and watch you take the win, congratulations!
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@smceccarelli Congratulations again Simona! So well done and so well deserved!
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@smceccarelli - I also forgot to add that if you do end up teaching a course for SVS or in general - I will definitely be signing up. Love your work!
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@Rich-Green Maybe in 10 years, when I will be rich and famous
Thanks for the congrats - and would like to add than without the great feedback from all the people here in the forum, my work with be much much weaker - so thanks to all!! -
Really wonderful work!! Congratulations!
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Just Like to add to the congratulations! Really fantastic work!
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Congratulations Simona! It was a really well-deserved win, fantastic piece.
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you guys are getting SO GOOD!!
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Fantastic job! Congrats!
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I knew it! Awesome job!
