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    Should I accept contract asking for 33% COMMISSION?

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    • Nyrryl  Cadiz
      Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG last edited by Nyrryl Cadiz

      Hi, everybody! It's so good to be back here in SVS. For the past year, I've been sending submissions to publishers and illustration reps/agents. My portfolio is without a doubt still not there but I've been trying my luck nonetheless. I did have one success when a small publisher decided to take a chance on me. Now, we're in the process of producing 2 books.

      Lately, however, an agency from the UK named Allied Artists approached me and offered representation if I added more pieces to my portfolio. Now that I made the additions, they reached out again. However, they were asking for a 33% commission! I'm no expert here, but isn't that a bit too much? Please tell me what you think. Also, please let me know what you think about Allied Artists illustration agency as a whole. Has anyone of you heard about it? Is it a legit company or am I being scammed?

      Thank you so much. I appreciate all your inputs.

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      • smceccarelli
        smceccarelli Pro SVS OG last edited by

        To my knowledge, 30-50% commission is pretty standard for illustration agencies. 30% is what is typical for illustration, 50% for art licensing agents. Literary agents take much less (15%). I do not know the company, so I cannot comment on that.

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        • Nyrryl  Cadiz
          Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG last edited by

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          • Nyrryl  Cadiz
            Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @smceccarelli last edited by

            @smceccarelli hmm... I see. I guess I was just being too paranoid. Thank you, Simona! You're very helpful. I consider you one of the experts here in SVS.

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            • audrey dowling
              audrey dowling last edited by

              My agent takes 35%. 30-35% seems to be the norm in the UK

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              • jimsz
                jimsz last edited by

                Should you decide to pursue a relationship with them remember to have the contract looked at by an attorney familiar with contracts like this. It will cost you a couple hundred dollars but is worth every cent.

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                • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                  Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @audrey dowling last edited by

                  @audrey-dowling Hi, Audrey! Thanks for the input. This only proves what an ignorant and paranoid person I actually am. Thank you so much. Do you know anything about Allied Artists illustration agency? It would be great to hear some first-hand opinions about them. Again, thanks.

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                  • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                    Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @jimsz last edited by

                    @jimsz Hi, Jim! I will consider that but I'm afraid I can't do that as of the moment. My funds are very limited. Plus, I live in the Philippines. I don't know any attorney who is experienced in these type of contracts. However, I will try to do this in the future. Thank you so much for your input!

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                    • audrey dowling
                      audrey dowling @Nyrryl Cadiz last edited by

                      @nyrryl-cadiz no sorry, I don't know them but you could contact some of their artists. Ask them if they're happy with their agent, how much work they get, pros and cons... Try artists whose style is similar to yours. That's what I did before I signed. Illustrators are usually happy to help

                      website: https://audreydowling.wordpress.com/
                      twitter: https://twitter.com/audreydowling
                      facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Audrey-Dowling-Artist-Illustrator-498582176906242/timeline/?ref=bookmarks

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                      • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                        Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @audrey dowling last edited by

                        @audrey-dowling Hi, Audrey! I'll try that. Thank you.

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                        • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                          Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG last edited by

                          Does anyone else have some suggestions? I would love to hear them. Thank you. 🙂

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                          • Lee White
                            Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG last edited by

                            Having an agent can be an essential component to breaking into the business. That said, it can be expensive. 33% is definitely on the high side, but it's within the scope of what I'm seeing these days.

                            If you don't have much published work, I would say go for it. 33% of something is better than 100% of nothing. Think of it as a limited time thing until you are established enough to let them go. Or, in a best case scenario, you stay because they are getting you lots of work. When you leave them in a few years, consider writing your own content and getting a literary rep at 15%.

                            Look closely at the terms for ending the relationship. Make sure you are comfortable with all of it.

                            Good luck!
                            -Lee

                            SVS Faculty Instructor
                            www.leewhiteillustration.com

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                            • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                              Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @Lee White last edited by

                              @lee-white Thank you so much, Lee. This is very hepful.

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