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    Episode 01 - My Art is Great, Why Won't Anyone Hire Me?

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    • demotlj
      demotlj SVS OG @lady chamomile last edited by

      @lady-chamomile I am exactly like you and can only hear critiques either after something is finished or if I am really stuck -- I know it's not working but I can't figure out why. I only draw/paint as a hobby but I also write as part of my job and it's that way for my writing too. Whether I'm writing or painting, if someone offers a critique in that "half-baked" stage, it's like it physically hurts my head. It's as if I'm trying to concentrate on where my vision is taking me and then someone starts throwing things at me from the sidelines and it's too much for my brain to handle. I've been writing professionally for 35 years and it has worked well for me to avoid evaluation until after a piece is finished (and then I'm usually my harshest critic) so I would say you should feel comfortable asking people to hold off on offering opinions until you are ready.

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      • smceccarelli
        smceccarelli Pro SVS OG last edited by

        I love the format - perfect for listening to while drawing and definitely fills a gap in the "podcast ecosystem". I loved the analogy with music - it's one I often use myself!

        It's not too bad with finding work right now...but could always be better.
        My main take-away is to keep pushing, keep studying other artists and keep evolving the creative vision more than anything else. I do tend to go back to technique as a sort of safe room, but I can also feel how it holds me back from reaching the next step or making a piece the best it can possibly be. So, this was a good reminder of focussing on idea and design first and let the technique just take care of itself.

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        • Sarah LuAnn
          Sarah LuAnn SVS OG @lady chamomile last edited by

          @lady-chamomile I think the hard thing for me about critiques on a partially done piece is usually the comments are things that just make me think, “well yeah, I just haven’t finished that part yet! Of course I’m not leaving it the way it is!”

          Sometimes (not always) if I feel I need some direction on a partially done piece, I ask specific feedback on what I need help with. “I just need to know what you think of the placement of x.” “Can you tell what this is?” Etc. If they choose to comment on anything else I’m free to take it or leave it. 😊 But yeah, it’s hard.

          I’m about halfway through the podcast and loving it so far 👍 I’m in the middle of choosing my top illustrators after listening to the style class so it feels especially relevant.

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          • rcartwright
            rcartwright last edited by

            I'm interested in opinions on what artists doing children's books should make the list of "top of the industry" I find it a hard industry judge because styles vary so much in comparison to other areas of the art world like card art where there is more constancy in styles

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            • MissMushy
              MissMushy SVS OG last edited by

              Just finished listening to the podcast! Lots of great info and insights.
              being someone who has never been to art school or had the benefit of being taught how to analyse art, I would be interested to see what a thorough analysis of an art piece looks like. I think @Lee-White mentioned, he wrote 5 pages on one piece - I can’t even begin to imagine what would be included in that and the level of detail that one should go into. If anyone is willing to share their text, I think it would be helpful.
              I do try to copy others’ pieces for practice but am less clear on how to go about intentionally applying it to my own stuff.
              Looking forward to the next podcast! (By the way, love the despondent bunny artwork!)

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              • Johanna Kim
                Johanna Kim SVS OG last edited by

                YAY! Love this format!!! Lots of helpful tips and perfect for listening while making art. Can't wait for the next one.

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                • Eli
                  Eli @lady chamomile last edited by

                  @lady-chamomile @demotlj @Sarah-LuAnn I always thought that was just ME! For some reason, it is like nails on a chalkboard, getting the critique on on a partial piece. I have never been clear on why that bothers me so much! But @demotlj , your description was spot on. And yes, it bothers me just as much with writing.

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                  • Eli
                    Eli last edited by

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                    • Margarita Levina
                      Margarita Levina last edited by

                      Thanks a lot for this episode! Just in time for me. Really. I don't know who is the author of that mentioned letter, but it sounded like it could be me. I'm struggling with this problem of high-rendering a lot. Sometimes it's like an obsession - I want to draw something more figurative, but ending up with something realistic-looking. Because a figurative art looks like I can't draw. It's just not enough for me!) And I fixing and redrawing it until it looks real. Urrrr... So I will definitely try your advices! And looking forward your next episodes!)))

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                      • DOTTYP
                        DOTTYP last edited by

                        Loved the podcast it was very inspiring with some awesome tips.I will have to do the nine picture comparison thing but I suspect it is going to be depressing.

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                        • jaepereira
                          jaepereira SVS OG last edited by

                          Well done first episode. I actually got a good story idea while listening to the podcast!

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                          • Laurel Aylesworth
                            Laurel Aylesworth last edited by

                            I think if this illustration thing doesn't pan out for Jake Parker, he'd make a fabulous life coach. But seriously, I love what he says about living your life to refill the well and not becoming a production machine. I'd been taking classes and gearing up for a conference these past few months, which were great but left me wiped out and wrung out creatively. I got some great feedback from a professional in the biz at the conference, so now I'm digesting it and taking some down time before starting up again. Don't forget to refuel, people. Thanks Jake/Will/Lee! Or Willeejake?

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                            • Sarah LuAnn
                              Sarah LuAnn SVS OG last edited by

                              I agree @Laurel-Aylesworth having a life is a really important part of developing as an artist. I feel like I'm in an interesting place right now, because I'm at least REALLY CLOSE to hitting all four of Lee's "is my work really good enough?" points, but I am also the primary caregiver of two kids under two years old. I just don't have the time and attention to focus on my art right now, or on promoting it for that matter. But my kids are definitely filling that creative bank account--ESPECIALLY since I want to do children books! In a year or two when things settle down I will be able to do what Jake mentioned at the end--all the networking and getting my work out there etc. I'm trying to think of this phase as a break, where I get to do work that I like, develop my craft, and find inspiration every day. I'm making my list of 8 greats, I'm planning to do the exercise as outlined. I'm excited to see what to work on next. And a bit nervous, but you know...

                              sarahluann.com

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                              • evilrobot
                                evilrobot SVS OG last edited by

                                Enjoyed this very much. Looking forward to more:)

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  I really liked the podcast! I do think being at an artistic cross road is a never-ending event. I'm working on my 9 panel exercise 🙂

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                                  • Eli
                                    Eli last edited by

                                    The podcast is great! Hope you make bunches of these! Also really liked the "awkward questions" pre-podcast video on YouTube!

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                                    • lady chamomile
                                      lady chamomile @Margarita Levina last edited by

                                      @margarita-levina Have you tried doing time-limited gesture drawings? (i.e. 2 min limit, 5 min limit, etc) They are great practice, and force you to focus on the overall drawing rather than the details.

                                      Here's a website I like to use: https://line-of-action.com/

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                                      • lady chamomile
                                        lady chamomile @Eli last edited by

                                        @eli @demotlj @Sarah-LuAnn Thanks you guys, I feel better knowing it's not just me. But I do think putting aside my ego and absorbing good critique is hard lol, I'll be working on that 🙂

                                        Wishing you all the best!

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                                        • Margarita Levina
                                          Margarita Levina @lady chamomile last edited by

                                          @lady-chamomile actually I did!) but my problem is not in sketching, but in rendering. I want to try limit rendering time though.

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                                          • juliepeelart
                                            juliepeelart SVS OG last edited by

                                            I love the podcast format! I am looking forward to more!

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