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    Episode 7: 10 Reasons I Won't Illustrate Your Children’s Book

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    • C. Alan Green
      C. Alan Green last edited by

      Hey Three Amigos,
      @Jake-Parker @Will-Terry @Lee-White

      I had a couple quick questions for you or anyone who has worked with a publisher. How does an illustrator submit there artwork to a publisher (or however that works) so that publisher can partner them up with author?

      I’m currently working on a children’s book for a family friend, but would like to see if I have what it takes to work with at least a minor publisher.

      That leads to my next question, how do I find medium to small publishers to partner with?

      Thank you guys for all you do!

      Best
      C. Alan Green

      https://www.instagram.com/christophergreen_art

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      • bnewman
        bnewman last edited by

        Thanks for another great podcast. I am really enjoying these. I was recently approached by a self publisher with really great intentions and at first it seemed like a great opportunity. In the end I turned it down due to some good advice I received here (thank you!!). If I had taken that job, I would have been doing an illustration every week for a year without pay. I'm sure I would have cut my arms off by now just to avoid finishing.

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        • rcartwright
          rcartwright last edited by

          After listening to this I feel that SVs should find someone to give a proper talk on self publishing. I just finished reading a book about the subject geared towards Canadians. My reason for reading the book was that if my current project doesn't get published through traditional means then I will push to get it done myself. I don't think there is anything wrong with using your abilities to fully develop a project. I however prefer to do my own art work, but have plans to work with an editor. I also found it amazing how many famous books in all genres have been self published way before it was even a thing people talked about regularly. I think it should also be mentioned that print on demand services like Amazon are now becoming much more profitable for authors

          https://www.scbwi.org/members/richard-cartwright/
          https://www.instagram.com/richardwcartwright/
          https://www.pinterest.ca/richcartwright3/art-of-richard-cartwright/
          https://www.richardwcartwright.ca/

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          • C. Alan Green
            C. Alan Green last edited by

            Just thought of another question. When submitting work to a publisher, do you submit a “finished not perfect” piece or only your best work?

            https://www.instagram.com/christophergreen_art

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              IanS last edited by

              I've just got to chip in and say I'm really enjoying the podcast! Thanks for putting the time in to do this.

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              • Johanna Kim
                Johanna Kim SVS OG last edited by

                This was a fascinating listen. The one thing that really got my ears buzzing was @Lee-White 's idea of a contract for critique groups (listen at 33.50 in the podcast). At first, I was really appalled by the idea. I've always envisioned these groups as inherently safe places to share one's work; where there's an unspoken code of trust and ethics. The idea of proposing to my fellow members to sign a contract goes against that idealized vision. But as I thought about it more, and heard @Lee-White say that his bad experience occurred with someone he knew very well, I'm starting to get convinced of the value of such a contract. A quick Google search has not turned up anything, though. Does anyone know if such a contract already exists? If not, I'm tempted to try drafting something for my critique groups to consider.

                http://www.johannakim.com
                http://instagram.com/johannahkim/

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                  jodiegraham last edited by

                  Awesome! Really true persepective on things!

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                    Rob Diaz last edited by

                    I've listened to this episode about three or four times already. Great podcast guys!

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                    • Christine Garner
                      Christine Garner last edited by

                      Thank you so much for this episode. I had an email today which is the typical seen your work on Instagram thing, but this one has about 3 red flags (at least).
                      It goes:

                      *I’ve been admiring your work on your Instagram page for a while, specifically your squirrel images! I’m at 3rd draft stage of a children’s book and am deciding whether to go traditional route of seeking an agent or to self-publish.

                      I just wanted to forearm myself with some information from you. If I went down the self-publishing route I would need to find myself a wonderful illustrator, such as yourself, and I’d like to know the process from your end and what you would charge. The book is a chapter book for 5-8 year olds so would definitely have a book cover illustration and then perhaps some other illustrations within.

                      Please fire any questions you have at me!*

                      Should I bother replying to her saying why I won't accept or just ignore it?
                      What would you do?

                      website: https://thimblefolio.com

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                      • Bob Crum
                        Bob Crum last edited by

                        I JUST found this podcast... derp. I lost my login for the forum even though I have been a long time supporter of SVSlearn - so I didn't see the podcast. NICE guys! This was my first episode and I see, in the content, the folly of many of my contracts. The pitfalls are real. I wish I would've listened to this years ago to save the heartache!
                        That being said, the worst day as an illustrator is still better than the best day digging a ditch.
                        Time to marathon some podcasts!

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