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    • Whitney Simms
      Whitney Simms SVS OG last edited by

      @christinakal maybe you feel more comfortable with form vs liner? You can see how 3D objects are and can translate that into a painting easier than finding the lines in a 3D form. And it would be much easier for us to tell you the difference if you drew and painted the same picture and we saw your reference? And the ear looks amazing! The face looks good. Still not bad.

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      • christinakal
        christinakal @Heather Boyd last edited by

        @Heather-Boyd Yes, I used reference for both. These are photo studies I did to compare drawing/painting skills. I drew the basic shape of the ear and then I started painting. I guess I need more practice in drawing ๐Ÿ˜€

        Thank you for replying!

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        • christinakal
          christinakal @NessIllustration last edited by

          @NessIllustration Well, I used reference for both that's the thing ๐Ÿ˜€ Maybe I feel more confident painting than drawing and that's why my drawings doesn't look good. The solution I guess is, practice practice practice!

          https://twitter.com/christina_frana

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          • ?
            A Former User last edited by

            I personally don't see anything wrong with your drawing ๐Ÿ™‚ but if it's something you're not totally comfortable with them it just takes lots of practice!

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            • demotlj
              demotlj SVS OG last edited by

              Maybe you could think of drawing as laying down forms instead of line. Instead of trying to draw the countour, using the pencil just as you would a paintbrush (using it more on its side to shade) to block out shapes. I actually think you have an advantage over most people who are learning to draw because understanding form is so fundamental and you obviously already have that.

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              • christinakal
                christinakal @ArtofAleksey last edited by

                @Aleksey Yes, definitely I enjoy painting more, but I also admire a good solid line drawing. I would really like to be able to do both, at the same level.

                @Whitney-Simms Well, I guess I fill more comfortable, yes. That's a good idea. I would try both painting and drawing the same picture!

                @hannahmccaffery I totally agree!

                @demotlj Actually that's how I sketch in my sketchbook and you're right it feels like painting to me and comes much more naturally! This specific portrait sketch I did is made in Photoshop so that's might be a reason.

                Thank you all for replying and for your kind words. ๐Ÿ™‚

                https://twitter.com/christina_frana

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                • CukiArtist
                  CukiArtist last edited by

                  I'm the opposite, I feel more natural drawing than painting because I used to sketch a lot and so I'm more used to it. As others have said it's probably just a case of experiment with different drawing methods and see what best matches you. After that it's practice, practice, practice ๐Ÿ™‚
                  I will also mention however that my drawings in Photoshop never look as good as my physical sketches do, I don't think it's a program well suited for drawing but if you find the right brushes to build up form like you do in your sketchbook it might get better.

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                  • christinakal
                    christinakal @CukiArtist last edited by

                    @CukiArtist Drawing in paper it feels so natural, I agree. But drawing digital takes more practice for sure, Well, we will get there eventually :smiling_face_with_open_mouth:

                    https://twitter.com/christina_frana

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                    • NessIllustration
                      NessIllustration Pro @christinakal last edited by

                      @christinakal Uhmm then it's something else... It might be that you're more comfortable representing light and shadow realistically as they appear on a reference picture. When you draw, you have to translate shapes and lighting into lines, so that's an additional step that you maybe have trouble with? Mind you, your drawing is really nice and there's nothing wrong with it! It seems compared to the ear it's much more stylized, and that you have also spent a lot less time on it. So it's not a 1 to 1 comparison! I would be curious to see you draw a realistic ear (using the same reference, even!) and taking the same amount of time to do it, this might make it easier to see what's going on here!

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                      • ArtofAleksey
                        ArtofAleksey @christinakal last edited by

                        @christinakal ok cool. How do you usually learn best? I am trying to improve my own line drawing skills and finally finding out whatโ€™s working by trying new things. All this after a bajillion years.

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                        • LauraA
                          LauraA SVS OG last edited by LauraA

                          Some people think like painters, in big shapes, while others think like draftsmen, in lines. Of course it's not quite that simple and most people are a bit of both, but it's worth considering. As a test, you can try drawing the same image both ways and see if one is easier than the other. Neither is wrong!

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                          • christinakal
                            christinakal last edited by

                            @NessIllustration I will to that. I am curious to see that myself ๐Ÿ˜‡ I am aiming for a more stylized style as I am starting a comic book project. I just need more practice. I would like to do realistic studies so I can understand how things work and then make them more stylized.

                            https://twitter.com/christina_frana

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                            • christinakal
                              christinakal @ArtofAleksey last edited by

                              @Aleksey Well, my learning process includes a lot of tutorials! haha๐Ÿ˜‡ but in general the thing that helps me most, is studying other artist's work. I try to understand how they put their lines, how they construct their drawings, their thinking process etc. Other than that, realistic studies helps a tone, understanding how things work. Some exercises I personally do:

                              • Film Studies. I draw or paint screen shots from movies. It helps with composition, acting and of course light and mood.
                              • Drawing animals and people in simple shapes (cubes, spheres) but in different perspective. Try 2 point but also 3 point perspective.
                              • Plein Air paintings. I usually use reference images from http://www.mapcrunch.com/.
                              • I sometimes try to take a picture (usually a character) and I try to stylize it. But I usually fail! I definitely need to practice more!
                              • And whatever study I do I try then to draw it without the reference, to see what I remember!

                              I hope it helps! ๐Ÿ˜Š

                              https://twitter.com/christina_frana

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                              • ArtofAleksey
                                ArtofAleksey @christinakal last edited by

                                @christinakal nice. I really wanna try doing the move scene studies. I really like the production design of Pride and Prejudice. When i was trying to figure out my comfort and style i had to gather some old drawings I did and compare them to styles I wanted them to look like. I tried to redraw those in the other style and something just clicked eventually.

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                                • christinakal
                                  christinakal @ArtofAleksey last edited by

                                  @Aleksey Great. I am glad that something clicked! Very nice feeling ๐Ÿ˜Š

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                                  • ArtofAleksey
                                    ArtofAleksey @christinakal last edited by

                                    @christinakal do things click more often for you with painting and color?

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                                    • christinakal
                                      christinakal @ArtofAleksey last edited by

                                      @Aleksey I think they do yes. I guess I have a better understanding with color than lines. It just feels more natural.

                                      https://twitter.com/christina_frana

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                                      • christinakal
                                        christinakal last edited by

                                        ฮŸฮš,I did as I promised. Here is a portrait study I did:

                                        Lineart:
                                        Screenshot 2019-03-29 at 15.21.34.png

                                        Painting:
                                        Screenshot 2019-03-29 at 15.16.15.png

                                        Reference picture
                                        8c412647-6db9-4c98-8b0b-32a5486a316a-image.png

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                                        • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                                          Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @christinakal last edited by

                                          @christinakal what i can say is that the right side of your paintingโ€™s face is ver narrow compared to the left side and your reference. Itโ€™s not quite right with the proportions. Other than that, great rendering.

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                                          • christinakal
                                            christinakal @Nyrryl Cadiz last edited by

                                            @nyrrylcadiz I agree. Also I think the values are not the best. I always see mistakes after I post something ๐Ÿ˜€

                                            https://twitter.com/christina_frana

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