How to Be the Best Art Student
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@Jake-Parker Great podcast again, of course, and this one has bonus vocabulary words!
It was interesting to hear the tip-offs from the students that demonstrate how much/little investment they have in the classes. I have a good friend who is an instructor in a community college with a great animation program--and his comments are in line with yours. Sometime I think formal education is a bit wasted on the young.
I especially appreciated the thoughts at the end re how to get the most out of the SVS classes. I am working on the plan I created from Jake's tips in Podcast #2. I'm glad to hear that you guys are considering how in the future you might be able to incorporate some strategies that make these classes a bit more similar to classroom-based classes. I would appreciate cohorting of students in classes and providing more exercises that help the student structure applying the new concepts. I try to come up with these on my own (with limited success)-but perhaps groups of students could help come up with some. I hope to take one of the Live classes soon. -
I’m listening this podcast right now. I always look forward to them. Thanks so much for your commitment to teaching!
I have to say, I’d be all for having tests or graded homework with the SVS subscription! That’s an important piece I think would really help me grow as an artist. Please do it! -
@Jake-Parker your podcasts are my ~monthly treats - totally makes my day when I see a new episode posted. This post in particular was very helpful in how to make the best use of time. Thank you!
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@DreaGryphon woah!!!
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@DreaGryphon i’m sorry you had that experience at BYU. I sense that you have some issues. Perhaps It would be best to talk this with a professional.
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@DreaGryphon you could be right. Will is not teaching in college now tho.
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@NessIllustration Vanessa, I find your points to be very constructive, rational, thoughtful and considerate of the complexities involved on all sides.
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@Erin-Cortese Thank you very much for your post. It means a lot to me. I feel really bad for that one student of yours. I was a bully victim in grade school so I can really connect with that. Knowing it continues into college is sickening. Thank you from learning from that experience and trying to do better.
It is hard to give people the benefit of the doubt. I'm a very judgmental person deep down, but I'm trying to do better and be more empathetic. I still have a long way to go.
And thanks! Most of my artwork that's online is so old now. I haven't managed much over the past few years for lots of reasons, but I'm trying to get back on the art donkey!
*creative writing teachers are the BEST!
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I would like to apologize for my previous comments. I was insensitive and made a terrible first impression. I ask for your forgiveness and for a second chance to prove my worth. I have removed my comments and will do my best to be positive and helpful from now on out here on SVS Learn Forums.
I would still like to say that listening to headphones might be the only way that student can get anything done in class, like if they have ADHD or something, so I don't think that listening to music during work time automatically makes them a bad student.
And some students really have trouble integrating into groups of people. Some students might need an invitation to participate in order to even start making friends in class. I don't think being socially challenged necessarily makes someone a bad student. Networking challenged, yes, but not a bad student.
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@DreaGryphon It is hard to admit to admit when we may not have been as good as we thought, especially when it's something we pride ourselves in and is a big part of our identity. I remember in high school I was THE art kid, the one that was the best in school at drawing and painting. Once I went to college... not so much! I found myself surrounded by people as good or better than me, and it was hard to adjust and take critique. I commend you for admitting that and reflecting back with a new light.
I'm sorry for arguing back so hard and hope you weren't offended. This forum is full of adults and professionals who are here voluntarily because they want to keep learning and we're all very dedicated about improving ourselves and being honest in our self-reflection. I think your posts came off a little immature compared to what we usually see here since you had a very emotional and defensive reaction to the podcast, which was not about how to recognize a bad student but about how to be a better student. It's all about improving ourselves, not attacking anyone. I will gladly take down my posts and forget the whole thing if you're more comfortable that way.
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@DreaGryphon cool tip though, Will also has ADD. So perhaps you should take his classes. He may know what you’re going through and be able to help you in your situation.
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Great podcast. Do it again! Every student dreams of becoming the best. Because of this, students become slaves of their college. You can read about it in the essay on the service https://tooly.io/slavery/. I believe that the educational system should change because competition between students should not exist.
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Hello everyone, for me this is to me the most essential podcast episode of 3 Point Perspective for anyone that is attending art class, be it SVS or other art courses and that is trying to get the best out of their subscription or out of their art studies.
Just one small introduction, i'm from Portugal, i'm thirty seven and drawn my entire life, always have been an hobbyist and never attended art studies or school or got an academic degree for that matter but am certainly grateful for finding out about SVS.
I've listened to all 3PP Podcast episodes and streamed most of the courses at SVS though never posted any of the assignments as i'm still at an absorption stage
SVS showed me my flaws and how to up my drawing game and provided tools to do so, in a very pragmatic way nailing down what makes a good illustration, furthermore i'm very thankful to what you're doing with SVS mostly because education in general and in particular in the US isn't that very affordable and art education should be available to everyone and even if that doesn't come with a art degree it's still great.
I do believe SVS is a very pratical tool to get better if you're willing to put in the effort, work on yourself and certainly taking art studies seriously and working on self-improvement does come with the age. I hope you guys get to improve SVS to the point anyone willing to put in that effort can do so and better their art skills and i wish SVS the internacional recognition it deserves.
So congratulations to everyone involved, and according to what i've seen online and the prices some institutions apply for masterclasses, you are truly doing holy work for the art community, i hope with this you are making an impact in the lives of many. Thank you Jake, Will, Lee and students.
PS: I also consider the Podcast to be fundamental as it adresses all those non spoken issues related to being a full-time job artist, it is very amuzing, funny and informative.
