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    • Pamela Fraley
      Pamela Fraley SVS OG @danielerossi last edited by

      @danielerossi I’m confused about the public domain laws too. It seems like the only way to be legit is to talk to a lawyer about everything. There’s a story I’m working on illustrating right now. It’s in the public domain, but I wouldn’t be confident enough to try and sell my version of it without getting legal advice. Especially because it’s a known author. It makes me wonder if the estate that manages his work still has some control over it.

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      • danielerossi
        danielerossi @Pamela Fraley last edited by

        @Pamela-Fraley Definitely check. Not illustration-related but a good example of how complex the whole concept of public domain and copyright can get — You know that War of the Worlds radio play from 1938 that scared a few people into believing aliens from Mars were attacking the world? The recording of it is in the public domain as well as the script (I believe). However, performing that script is not in the public domain. Not sure why or how that is!

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          arent-draper last edited by

          THANK YOU!!!!!

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          • sigross
            sigross @danielerossi last edited by

            @danielerossi the original War of the Worlds by HG Wells is in the public domain but the radio version probably still owned by Orson Welles estate. So you would need buy a public performance license to perform it.

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            • Pamela Fraley
              Pamela Fraley SVS OG @sigross last edited by

              @sigross yea. That’s why I think getting legal advice on individual cases is important.

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              • sigross
                sigross @Pamela Fraley last edited by

                @Pamela-Fraley yes worth looking at cases and how they turned out. Even if you're in the right you may get bullied into taking stuff down with a legal letter and the threat of court, which can be very expensive. The funny thing is that big studios have nicked their ideas from other stories anyway. Things like Star Wars is a remake of The Hidden Fortress. The beginning of Spirited Away is from Homer's The Odyssey where Odysseus visits the Goddess Circe's island. Find the source of a story and create your own characters and narrative. Do Ancient Fan Art, you'll never get sued for being that retro!

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                • Pamela Fraley
                  Pamela Fraley SVS OG @sigross last edited by

                  @sigross said in Public domain characters:
                  Do Ancient Fan Art, you'll never get sued for being that retro!

                  HaHa! So true!

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                  • danielerossi
                    danielerossi @sigross last edited by

                    @sigross said in Public domain characters:

                    The funny thing is that big studios have nicked their ideas from other stories anyway. Things like Star Wars is a remake of The Hidden Fortress. The beginning of Spirited Away is from Homer's The Odyssey where Odysseus visits the Goddess Circe's island.

                    cough Simba vs. Kimba/The Lion King cough

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                    • sigross
                      sigross @danielerossi last edited by

                      @danielerossi I'll have read about that, total ripoff at first glance. I have to confess that I've never watched the Lion King.

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                      • peteolczyk
                        peteolczyk last edited by

                        Thanks for sharing it Pam.
                        I’m sure I heard that the first Mickey Mouse had reached its copyright end and now was in the public domain.
                        I don’t know if this meant Mickey Mouse was public domain (surely not) or the first version of the character, or just the video of the 1st episode.

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                        • peteolczyk
                          peteolczyk last edited by

                          I double checked the Micky Mouse copyright. (Didn’t want anyone to get in trouble)

                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/a-whole-years-worth-of-works-just-fell-into-the-public-domain/

                          “On January 1, 2024, we'll see the expiration of the copyright for Steamboat Willie—and with it Disney's claim to the film's star, Mickey Mouse. The copyrights to Superman, Batman, Disney's Snow White, and early Looney Tunes characters will all fall into the public domain between 2031 and 2035.

                          The expiration of copyrights for characters like Mickey Mouse and Batman will raise tricky new legal questions. After 2024, Disney won't have any copyright protection for Mickey's original incarnation. But Disney will still own copyrights for later incarnations of the character—and it will also own Mickey-related trademarks.”

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                          • danielerossi
                            danielerossi @peteolczyk last edited by

                            @peteolczyk Sounds like we’d be able to use the old incarnation of Mickey but not his name.

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