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    how to reject properly when people asks if you do royalty only projects?

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    • idid
      idid last edited by

      Hello everyone,

      I have a friend who is asking if I could do royalty only project for a small publisher. The answer is probably not, but I am not sure how people actually reply to such requests and not harm that friendship.

      Anyone advice/suggestions?

      Thanks much!

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      • Jeremy Ross
        Jeremy Ross @idid last edited by

        Hi @idid, Just politely state that royalty only agreements are too risky. If that’s hard, just say you know someone who had very bad experience with royalty only agreements and suggested you never consider them.

        Just say you only work with advances + royalties, which is typical for children’s book industry.

        You might want to cheeky and ask for the royalty fee % and benchmark estimated payout to have them calculate the tiny amount you will get. I believe industry practice is 5% for illustrators and 10% for author/illustrators.

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        • Nyrryl  Cadiz
          Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @Jeremy Ross last edited by

          @Jeremy-Ross i Totally agree. The safest way to go about this is to say that it’s just too risky. If it were me I’d keep it short and sweet.

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          • idid
            idid @Jeremy Ross last edited by

            @Jeremy-Ross and @Nyrryl-Cadiz Thank you so much for your advice! I thought I was going to tell him/her I am really busy, which is true at this moment. But it seems like delaying a problem rather than solving it. Your suggestions make so much more sense!

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            • jimsz
              jimsz last edited by

              Simply state that you do not accept that type of job. People make it much more complicated than it needs to be.

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              • NessIllustration
                NessIllustration Pro last edited by

                Yeah he asked for a favor. He doesn't get to feel offended if you say no!

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                • Phil Cullen
                  Phil Cullen last edited by

                  I didn't know they were a thing, I would never take a royalty only project. That would be my response to them, even if they are a friend. You could elaborate and explain that you would basically be working for months on the artwork for the book but the book may not be released a long time after that, so you essentially will only see returns, if any, on your work probably a year later. Who would agree to that? The least that could be offered is an advance.

                  I on the other hand have only been offered work for hire contracts lately 😞

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