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Advice please: The rabbit image has finally made progress :D

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  • randarrington
    randarrington @Chantal Goetheer last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 19:30

    @Chantal-Goetheer Well I didn't intend to have him checking the watch really but just running with it in his hand...maybe I should put a cover on the watch to reduce the possibility of anyone having that idea...

    How do you feel about the rabbits rotation to a more vertical stance. This was actually the original pose that I'd created and someone on here thought it should be rotated forward to create a more dynamic feel....which one do you prefer?

    Thank you for your input!!!!!

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    Mia Clarke AngelinaKizz Chantal Goetheer 3 Replies Last reply 14 Feb 2023, 20:31 Reply Quote 2
    • Mia Clarke
      Mia Clarke @randarrington last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 20:19

      @randarrington when seeing the straightened up bunny I must say I was wrong, your original tilt was better.

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      • AngelinaKizz
        AngelinaKizz @randarrington last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 20:22

        @randarrington I actually think the first pose has more urgency to it, it’s more dynamic. The watch looks better in the second variation, however the hand still looks rather unnatural. The fingers look to be disconnected from the wrist to see that much turn backwards. In foreshortening the forward hand should also be larger than the back hand. In a natural run that arm coming forward, will also bent and moving upwards. The arm also naturally come out mor centered to the body. It’s not a huge adjustment, but I think it’ll help. If you take the hands off of the watch then maybe adding the chain that’s typical of a pocket watch trailing behind as he runs will help add more readability and push the movement even more.

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        • Chantal Goetheer
          Chantal Goetheer @randarrington last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 20:31

          @randarrington the first one looks more dynamic.

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          • randarrington
            randarrington @AngelinaKizz last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 21:10

            @AngelinaKizz Thank you for your advice. The original drawing did have the watch chain and it does add a great deal of movement. I'll add that back into the final. I think I do need to emphasis the hand (holding the watch) and its anatomy more clearly. I'm not sure if the fingers breaking in perspective is being read. I think that's due to the fir....but I can play with that.

            Thank you very much!!!!

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            • randarrington
              randarrington @Chantal Goetheer last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 21:10

              @Chantal-Goetheer I agree. 😃

              Thank you very much!!!!!!!

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              • randarrington
                randarrington @Mia Clarke last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 21:11

                @Mia-Clarke I think so too...but it was certainly worth checking. I did have the rabbit in more of a vertical position originally but you never know. simple to check it 😃

                Thank you for you help!!!!

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                • randarrington
                  randarrington last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 21:16

                  Can I ask how everyone feels about the color? Is it lean too much toward the grey tones toward the background and then goes dark too quickly? How dies the ridges in the tree directly behind the rabbit read? I almost thing it'd be better to use larger shapes not the ridged bark look. That would create other large shapes in the design. That's one of my fears actually is that I've not payed attention to the large shapes in my zeal to get into the drawing and the detail. How about the contrast? I'm trying together the rabbit to be the focus. Does that work here?

                  Thanks again everyone!!!! I really appreciate your thoughts

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                  • willicreate
                    willicreate last edited by willicreate 14 Feb 2023, 21:53 14 Feb 2023, 21:39

                    @randarrington If you cover the face of the watch it may reduce the viewer's ability to recognize the object as a pocket watch; especially for the younger audience.

                    I wouldn’t be too concerned with people interpreting the image differently than your intention. While I agree about the issue of how the paw is holding the watch, I do like the initial hand position. The rabbit looks as though it is presenting the watch to me, directly communicating, "Get out of the way! Look at the time. I'm late. I'm late."

                    The posture as it currently stands is great.

                    The environment looks convienently spaced around the rabbit, oppose to the character navigating the landscape. For example, the tree behind the rabbit is bending at a 30 degree, but no roots sticking out of the ground or growing on the path and not chopped to create the path. The root underneath the rabbit bends safely away from tripping it. The grass undisturbed. I think the composition would benefit if both the character and the environment reacted to one another.

                    Shouldn't the coat end be behing the left tree trunk?

                    As for the colors, I did think there were too much blacks. Have you considered subsitute black with color to simulate color casts and tints. Something like a N.C. Wyeth illustration. However, one can argue the 'real world' are greys and blacks and Wonderland is in technicolor.

                    I'm not sure what to say about the ridges. It depends on your style. Do you want to go for a realistic, photographic look or more impressionist? Your question made me think of the illustrator Chris Buzelli. He's very detail oriented, but not a hyper-realist. Take a look at his execution.

                    I do like the quality of the digital piece. It'll be an awesome painting.

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                    • Chantal Goetheer
                      Chantal Goetheer @randarrington last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 22:03

                      @randarrington personally I like the ridges. It still feels like a big tree to me, and the ridges just give it texture and make it more like a tree. It also fits how the rabbit is textured. The white of his head certainly catches attention first. The dark blue of the coat, especially the arm holding the watch, fades a bit into the tree. Maybe making the tree, what it alrea What @willicreate says about the interaction with the environment and the colour is a good point.

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                      • Jeremy Ross
                        Jeremy Ross @randarrington last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 22:20

                        Hi @randarrington, I think it’s great. I would go ahead and paint it!

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                        • randarrington
                          randarrington @willicreate last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 22:26

                          @willicreate Good insight on the environment details and treatment. I'll address that in the final piece. Thank you for that.

                          If you look at the first image...the coat is slightly behind the tree. (I didn't take the time with the edits to worry about it) It's a little bit of tangent and I could pull that left tree in closing in the space which would force the coat to appear behind the tree and helping with the environment looking more integrated. Thank you for that too 😃

                          I felt it was too dark as well. Part of the problem is Procreate and how it handles color...it came over the the MacBook really dark. So I did adjust that to be closer to what I was seeing on the iPad. Still feels darker to me than the original source. I'll certainly keep that in mind when doing the final.

                          Thank you so much!!!!! You've been very insightful.

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                          • randarrington
                            randarrington @Chantal Goetheer last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 22:29

                            @Chantal-Goetheer I may do a quick version using more shapes on that tree just to see. I feel like I'm entirely too anal LOL.

                            The arm fade is intentional. I love lost shape and edge. I'd really like to have pushed that further but...I'm afraid it would have made it tougher to read. Especially since this is utterly fictional and I don't have any reality to leverage for the shapes and gestures.

                            Thank you so much for you input!!!!! Great insights!!!!

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                            • randarrington
                              randarrington @Jeremy Ross last edited by 14 Feb 2023, 22:30

                              @Jeremy-Ross Thank you Jeremy!!!! I'm getting anxious to drop some paint 😃

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