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    Javier Algarra last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 19:52

    Hi everybody! I'm working on an illustration and before continuing with it I wanted to get some feedback on the composition. I made some thumbnails, then I proceeded with a rough sketch/values. This is what I came up with (I hope you can understand it, some lines are very rough):
    0_1496692124269_Patio.png

    And here it is as a thumbnail:
    0_1496692227554_PatioTh.png

    I believe it reads well, but I'd really appreciate your input. Thanks!

    https://www.instagram.com/javier.algarra64

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    • MOO
      MOO SVS OG last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 19:57

      Reads well to me! Love the guy jumping into the pool 😉 Nicely done!

      Marsha Ottum Owen

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      • Lee White
        Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 20:36

        values and composition work well. Good job there!

        The pose of the guy jumping doesn't look natural to me. Maybe try some other poses...

        Good luck!

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        www.leewhiteillustration.com

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          Javier Algarra @MOO last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 20:56

          @Marsha-Kay-Ottum-Owen Thank you!! 🙂

          https://www.instagram.com/javier.algarra64

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            Javier Algarra @Lee White last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 20:57

            @Lee-White Thanks! I really like that pose, but I will try a couple more.

            https://www.instagram.com/javier.algarra64

            Chip Valecek 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2017, 21:03 Reply Quote 0
            • Chip Valecek
              Chip Valecek SVS Team SVS OG @Javier Algarra last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 21:03

              @Javier-Algarra I think if you rotate him so his head is in front of his feet it would feel more natural.


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              • Lee White
                Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG last edited by Lee White 5 Jun 2017, 21:09 5 Jun 2017, 21:05

                I think the problem is that pose looks like it's right in between an out of control jump, and a dive. His feet being forward is the problem. So you need to figure out if this guy is in control or not, and then design the pose accordingly. Right now it's right in the middle of the two so it doesn't work as well as it could. If he's out of control, make him REALLY out of control. If he's in control, that needs to show as well.

                Here's some samples of cannonballs, bellyflops, etc.
                0_1496696698876_91849745.jpg 1_1496696686011_Unknown.jpeg 0_1496696686011_belly-flop-1.jpg

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                • Chip Valecek
                  Chip Valecek SVS Team SVS OG @Lee White last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 21:09

                  @Lee-White oh that bottom picture... ouch


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                  • Eric Castleman
                    Eric Castleman last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 21:11

                    Yes, I agree with Lee. I thought the character was going upwards like he was jumping on a trampoline. The cannonball pose would really work much better imho.

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                    • Lee White
                      Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 21:12

                      maybe like this idea...0_1496697132065_1496692126949-patio.jpg

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                        Javier Algarra @Lee White last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 21:39

                        @Lee-White Amazing! That actually works a lot better. I think Im going to try that pose. Thanks!

                        https://www.instagram.com/javier.algarra64

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                          Javier Algarra last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 23:47

                          OK, I reworked it with different poses:

                          0_1496705985430_Patio2.png
                          1_1496705985433_Patio3.png
                          2_1496705985433_Patio5.png

                          The first and second are the same, just with different angles. I think the second one works the best, but I'm having doubts with the height of the jump. I think it's too high, but at the same time if I lower the jump, it may brake the composition. I think I'd rather have more of an unrealistic jump that works, than the other way around.

                          https://www.instagram.com/javier.algarra64

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                          • NoWayMe
                            NoWayMe @Javier Algarra last edited by 5 Jun 2017, 23:59

                            @Javier-Algarra Great work!! I would go with #2 or #3, I like both!

                            One thing, I know it's not a final sketch and maybe you are planning to change that already, but the head of your characters (especially the 2 guys at the table and the lady in the water) are really big! I would make them significantly smaller!

                            Otherwise, it looks good!

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                              Javier Algarra @NoWayMe last edited by 6 Jun 2017, 00:05

                              @NoWayMe Thanks! Yeah I noticed the heads sizes, it's a problem I constantly have, the lady in the water is actually a little girl, that's why the big head 🙂

                              https://www.instagram.com/javier.algarra64

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                              • MOO
                                MOO SVS OG @Javier Algarra last edited by MOO 6 Jun 2017, 01:39 6 Jun 2017, 01:37

                                @Javier-Algarra You're welcome. I guess Lee knows better though...good thing he saw it! 🙂

                                Marsha Ottum Owen

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                                  Tyler Hallstrom last edited by 6 Jun 2017, 03:56

                                  This is something small in comparison to the main action of the character jumping, but the girl the glasses appears to be the only character not looking at him jump. Yet the way she is adjusting her glasses makes it seem as though she has been startled by what I can presume in the announcement of a cannonball. Value wise I think you are set for a nice composition as well. Nice work on that.

                                  Tyler J. Hallstrom
                                  One Drawing at a Time.
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                                    Javier Algarra @Tyler Hallstrom last edited by 6 Jun 2017, 04:03

                                    @Tyler-Hallstrom Yes! That was the idea. I think it'll look better with the details:
                                    0_1496721795765_PatioGirl.png

                                    https://www.instagram.com/javier.algarra64

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                                      Tyler Hallstrom @Javier Algarra last edited by 6 Jun 2017, 04:17

                                      @Javier-Algarra Excellent! Just what I was thinking, this will look really nice once it is fleshed out.

                                      Tyler J. Hallstrom
                                      One Drawing at a Time.
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