Agents and Reps
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@peteolczyk yes they do - I love a lot of their artists...!
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I'm loving the relaxed feel of the podcasts - keep the rambling, the stories, and the ribbing because it's great! Also a thought that I had in response to a comment Lee White made - he was talking about if one area dries up, he's got other streams of income. Is there a multiple streams of income class for artists? Maybe focusing on balancing them all? I know there's the How to Make Money as an Illustrator Classes, but one specifically on balancing varied streams of income for us artists who understand it's a good plan, but are awful at planning without a picture in front of us. Please keep the podcasts coming! They are my oxygen when I on days when I can't get enough time for art.
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@charitymunoz I agree regarding the pod casts. I really enjoy listening to them! Please don't change a thing. If anything make more of them!!
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I love the ramblings of the 3 of them also. I like how Jake and Lee tackle Will and his long stories. Non rehearsed is great as it shows their true personalities. Perfect length of podcast for me to take my dogs around the park and back home. If they were just doing bullet points, I would need to sit down with a pen and paper to take notes and I don't think my dogs will like that.
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quick question, anyone knows where can we find a "black list" of agents? it's hard to tell just from their websites and interviews.
Some agents scoop artists as a potential resource, but does not care about their personal development.
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@idid it is a tricky question. I have never thought of such a list exist. I try to build my own list by checking out artists I like, and see who are their agents. A large number of artists I follow currently actually end up in the same agency - Writer's house. I am not sure if they take illustrators only, I got the feeling that they prefer author/illustrators. I might just send out emails to a couple of big ones to get the feel of how it is like to engage with agents. I was very happy to hear from other artists that some agents still give artists feedback and critique even they are going to reject you.
Have you experienced with any agents that just scoop artists for potential resource, but not care? If you are uncertain about any agent approaching you, you can probably post it in this forum and ask if anyone knows anything about them. Alternatively, you can always contact artists they represent, and ask for tips, and their experience so far.
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@xin-li Thank you!
Writers house do take illustrators. I have a friend of friend who does not write at all, and end up with writers house immediately after she graduates from a prestigious MFA program. Julia Sarda is another example.I had the blacklist question because I have a friend of who has been rep-ed by a literary agency for two years, no job so far. Two-years does not seem that long, the problem is some literary agency nowadays began to represent illustrators, but not treating artists in a way that illustrator agencies do, such as bringing in jobs proactively. This friend was very excited at the beginning, but now feels her time has been wasted and she has been treated like a backup tire. It is a well-known literary agency BTW.
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@idid sounds like your friend is in the situation that was mentioned in this podcast. Some big agencies have their top artists in line and they are always busy, and the rest of the artists only get work when the top artists are too busy. I am thinking it might be hard to judge an agency with a single case. I get the feeling that so much is depending on individual agents, individual artists, and their interaction and chemistry.
Your story made me think maybe it is important to negotiate a contract that can end in 2-3 months if things do not work out after a year. It is also valuable to talk to other artists under the same agent before going to sign with the agent.
Hope your friend find her way out of the situation. And thank you for sharing the story here.
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@Will-Terry Don’t let anyone tell you to change your ramblings! I love them! You are the reason I found SVS learn. I enjoyed your YouTube posts, so I followed you here. Don’t let the stuffy folks change you!
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@alicia I agree, it’s just a side effect of explaining things very well and very thoroughly
