A redraw from last year
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Great image and an interesting design concept! One thing that caught my eye, and which I think could have made a big difference, is the variety of color contrast. The patterns are quite similar. If you promote the idea of one color palette, I think it would give the piece an added dynamic.
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I really love that, wow. It looks just so nice. I love the textures and also that you did put an extra background and foreground. You made a good job.
About the feedback of the tooo busy. I don't know, when you look at underwater pictures it's always kind of busy, i mean depending on the inviroment. But as there is so much life in the ocean i did't have the feeling of it beeing to busy.
Mybe its just me. Maybe you can make the foreground darker so that it would take a bit of the busyness? Also maybe just work with shapes in the background and only one color?But is still like it as it is.
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Thank you @Larue @ruth @Henry-Mosley @von_Nimmermehr
I have tried to take your points on board and darken the foreground, desaturate the background and attempt to add a little colour to the fish.
I have changed the linework to be coloured and not all blue and tried to make the jellyfish and bubbles more subtle. I’m starting to destroy the procreate file a little so it’s getting a little shabby in places.
I’m not entirely sure I’ve made a massive difference but as I was listening to a rerun of an old 3PP podcast today they made some good points about adding extra stories and focal points that are not necessary. I think I’m going to go and do Will’s ‘draw 50 things’ course as I do love drawing busy and intricate scenes but I need to learn how to structure them properly.
Thank you all so much for the feedback, it’s been so helpful.
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@lizardillo it really makes a diffenrece!
So i would say, be gentle to yourselfe, because you made a good job here!
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@lizardillo Great revision and how you stuck with it to make it look amazing. As far as the click-click-click thing. I don't get it as an American. If you are worried perhaps change it to 'Market'? Whateves! It's beautiful! Amazing work!
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@lizardillo WOOW, I admire your tenacity so much! This version looks FANTASTIC!
I think it might be because the dolphin's faces are lit top-down; (there's higher contrast there),
So that's where my eye gets drawn first. And that's what brings hierarchy into the scene. It feels like there's a nice circular flow pathway now - I look at three dolphin faces -> follow the curved tail -> then the surrounding parcels/ shop sign -> then the foreground/ background.Getting enough realism for the water to look believable AND preserving the line-work is a tricky balance. You did such a lovely job of it here!
It makes me wanna visit and peek at what knick-knacks other dolphins have ordered : )
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@lizardillo This is fantastic. Massive improvement in rendering and storytelling since the January version!! Can't wait to see what you do next.
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@lizardillo such a big improvement! The lighting and textures look so good
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@lizardillo Hello!
I think your touch ups are a great improvement. I really like all the additional environment elements around in the foreground and background and the lighting. It feels like it's a real place now, a lived and worked in space! Texture is a bonus. I don't find it gruesome. I do like the reality that the crabs are bit afraid that they might be next. There's a nice tension but the main focus isn't on them, so I think it's okay.
Thanks for sharing,
Heather
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@lizardillo This is amazing!! I feel like it went form good to Pro-level!
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@lizardillo I think the atmosphere in this piece just keeps getting better! And though I'm not British, I figured out the meaning pretty quickly. It's kinda funny how I don't know whether the crabs are for sale or just wandering away--or maybe both. And who's that under the rock? Maybe he doesn't want to wind up in the bin?
Where are you doing a mentorship?
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@Pamela-Fraley Ditto, this looks fantastic!
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Hiya all.
Apologies about the late reply @von_Nimmermehr @KatrinaF @amandalo @Valerie-Light @Griffin @Heather-Boyd @Pamela-Fraley @LauraA @Jeremiahbrown, it's a long 4-day bank holiday weekend over here in the UK and the weather has been great (
for once!) so I have not really been online to look on the forum. It was truly amazing logging on to see comments like this.Thank you everyone for such kind and constructive feedback. It's truly appreciated, especially when I really wasn't confident that I should have committed any more time to this piece to start with. Thank you for the help and encouragement. I'm glad I persevered now and I think I will add it to my portfolio website. I keep looking and thinking 'I could change this, and that... and that... and that...' I know there is more I could do but I think it's time to just stop! My next learning project is FOCAL POINTS!!
@LauraA said in A redraw from last year:
Where are you doing a mentorship?
Laura, I'm doing a 3-month mentorship with Giuseppe Castellano. Am I right in thinking you did one with him a while ago? How did you find it if you did? I'm finding it really good but I don't feel I have made the most of it somehow. Giuseppe has been great but I seem to have been a lot slower creating work than I expected. With my free time available and some mental health issues I ground to a halt for a couple of weeks unfortunately. I wish I had took out the 6-month one now! I have my last session on April 28th so I would love to have 10 solid portfolio pieces ready to pitch to agents/art directors. I've not had the confidence to send anything out to anyone yet
I hope you all have had a great weekend.
Thanks again,
Liz (a happy SVS/Easter bunny!
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@lizardillo Yes, I both have done mentorship sessions with Giuseppe (and continue to do so) and I understand exactly what happens with the time (and the extra emotional and logistical demands that life throws us). I thought I was the slow one!
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Can I ask about the mentorship? I looked him up, and the opportunity looks amazing. At what point would you suggest seeking out mentorship? im pretty new to illustration and digital art, but ive been a professional photorealistic artist for many years.
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@lizardillo Liz you should definitely add this to your website, It is such a strong piece of illustration.
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@AngelinaKizz I think he has people on his mentorship at all stages of their career so I think it’s just when you feel you would like that extra bit of support. I took the plunge as I feel I had got to the stage where I just couldn’t get any further on my own. I had been drawing and drawing for a long time with no real direction (apart from the SVS prompts) and I just needed someone to take a look and guide me a little. I had paid for a couple of portfolio reviews with different people (AOI and Inkygoodness in the UK) over the last year or so, which I found helpful before taking the plunge into this.
In the mentoring sessions Giuseppe went through my portfolio website to start with and told me what was good, what was not that good and where the gaps were. He then gave me a series of challenges such as ‘an illustration with 2 or more characters, interacting and showing emotion’ and then we review what I have done in the next session. It’s a bit like a critique, but with a bit more advice, every two weeks. There isn’t any interaction between the hourly face-to-face video sessions, I just get on with it. I do feel like I’ve not took full advantage of the opportunity as I’ve struggled with a piece that I spent far too much time on and didn’t turn out well in the end and also I have been a bit slow from time/emotional issues (not illustration related), but hey, that’s life isn’t it!
It wasn’t cheap so I took advantage of the illustration Department Black Friday sale in November and scheduled my mentor sessions to start in January.
If you are not sure whether you are ready to invest in a mentorship at the moment then I suggest having a portfolio review first. They are very insightful and can help you see where you are at the moment with your art. It’s a one-off thing rather than a long commitment but still very helpful.
Hope this helps, sorry I’m not very good at explaining things clearly.
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@PenAndrew thank you. I’ve put it up on my website
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@lizardillo Great. I hope you will also sell this as a print later!
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@lizardillo thanks for the thoughtful reply! I’ll hang tight for a bit, keep building my portfolio and see where things are at around Black Friday! I also just started university for illustration, and I’m hopeful to see more growth to come with my upcoming classes.
