Treehouse - Many Months in the Making
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@AngelinaKizz Wow thank you so much Angelina for this run down on things! Even though I've been using my primsacolors steadily for a year now, I still don't feel like I know about the other colored pencil options that exist, so thank you for all this wonderful info!
Also, yes I can totally see what you're talking about with the quality decrease. I remember using prismas years ago and they were definitely of a higher caliber than what they are now.
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Also does anyone have any thoughts on the Rembrandt polycolor colored pencils or the Staedtlers? I've got some of both that I mainly use for thumbnails.
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@AngelinaKizz Thanks Angelina, a really detailed and helpful analysis of the market and products. What do you mean by burnish? I know this to mean something like heating and rubbing metal onto a surface.
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@PenAndrew burnishing is when you go with a heavier hand as one of the last layers to push all of the layers into the tooth of the paper. It marries all the layers of colors together. It’s not necessary to burnish but I like the end result of burnishing. There’s not a whole lot of room for adding more layers after burnishing but I can usually add little hairs, and deepen a wrinkle or creases.
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@AngelinaKizz Thanks! I am so shocked to realise how ignorant I am about many things, there are so many holes in my knowledge. The more I learn about pencils the more i understand why I thought using them wasn't valued, because I just didn't know enough. I can't believed I have used pencils for so long. I honestly didn't know that there was anything to learn about them!
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@PenAndrew I think that’s the best part of art… there’s always something to learn. If we stop learning, we’re either much too arrogant or dead. Haha.
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@AngelinaKizz Yes, it has been the path to my reawakening of art! Despite my 7 years of studying art I saw how ignorant I was after listening to the 100 podcasts, I joined up just after this. What are you studying at University?
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@PenAndrew I’m going to Emily Carr in Canada, they have an illustration program. I’m really enjoying it so far.
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@AngelinaKizz Great, I look forward to seeing your posts. Is this your first formal training in illustration?
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@PenAndrew yes, I’ve never attended university before, and I’ve been a part of SVS for a year and a half now, and I’ve learned so much here. I crave learning all the things… probably more than I have time for.
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@AngelinaKizz Yes, I had this feeling with learning in the past and in the end I could not see anything through in terms of trying to learn online. Then I forced myself to narrow down my courses to things I really wanted to learn, that linked to the arts and teaching. I then found I could learn tonnes more and saw many courses through from beginning to end. I also had to learn what was really important and what was just an interest.
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@AngelinaKizz @PenAndrew I love this whole conversation! It's so refreshing to find you guys and this community who is just so eager to learn.
Not to throw anyone under the bus, but I've been part of a critique group (not affiliated with SVS in any way) for the last 6 months, and they haven't exactly met my expectations on this topic in particular.
I've found that it's somewhat easy to find people who say they want to illustrate for kids but its extremely difficult to find folks who are actually serious about what that means - actively pursuing and embracing everything there is to learn about it.
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@AngelinaKizz I have had a lot of problems with my prismacolor pencils. Just like you said, they break so easily and some are a nightmare to sharpen. Some were even broken when I opened the box. I have always loved the way they blend, so its good to know there are some better options!
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@PenAndrew A lot of this hit me like a tonne of bricks when I first started taking it more seriously. It can be very overwhelming and easy to start doubting yourself (I hear it in you - hahaha) so focus on the exciting part. Never stop learning, and have fun a long the way. I say this because I have a lot of anxiety and I am seriously hard on myself, so remember you're not the only one who feels like they have holes in their knowledge. I am telling this to myself just as much as I am to you!
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@AlliFaith
My daughter is almost 8 and she’s incredibly artistic. I think soon she’ll be showing me the ropes. She’s got perspective skills, shading and light, it’s beyond my comprehension how she’s just got it figured out. So she wanted mommy’s pencils. I don’t want to buy her crayolas, as I think working with nice supplies is really beneficial when you’re serious about your arts, however because she’s so young, I didn’t want to spend 100s yet. So i bought her castle pencils, and honestly, I think they’re quite comparable to prismacolor. I enjoy using them with her, they’re creamy, they’re blendable, they’re quite vibrant… I doubt they have any lightfast rating to them, but my daughter isn’t selling art so that wasn’t a necessary feature to look for. If you’re wanting to try a different budget friendly colored pencil, I’m really impressed with castle. -
@AngelinaKizz I recently discovered castle! I bought a watercolor pencil set and I was quite impressed with the quality for such a price. I don't work with pencils like I used to because of my arthritis, but I like them for little details. And I agree about using quality products when you're serious. I learned that the hard way as I ruined a lot of nice pieces with sub-par materials.
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@AngelinaKizz I too am a traditional artist, and with years of colored pencil use I have found the same results, unfortunately, with Prismacolor... way back in the day when they were good, they were excellent and first choice in layering and blending. Now, they break all the time and it is soooo frustrating... omg. I have decided I love FaberCastell Polychromos as well, Derwent too, and being oil based I am ok with that. I have also discovered using a solvent to assist in blending is so fun to play with. It is essential to know how much Gamsol to use though, it can ruin the image if you use too much, so it requires some small dipping of your brush, then dab on a paper towel until you have the right amount.
Definitely fun once you get the swing of things...This image I drew on marker paper because didn't want too much of the Gamsol to spread yet I wanted enough absorbance of the pigment to do its magic. I also love you can add dark charcoal over the top which is tough if you use wax based Prismacolors. Maybe Prismacolor will figure out they should go back to the original design and get their **##&%@ together LOL
Erin Richardson
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@AngelinaKizz Wow what a brilliant young lady!
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@ArtistErin very lovely drawing! Thanks so much for this info - I have a really dumb question. Years ago I used a super cheap method of blending with baby oil and a q-tip which was a fun experimental thing to do, but obviously not the most professional.
Do you use Gamsol in the same sort of way? Like you'd brush it on once you've put all the layers of colored pencil down and blend things that way?
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@Kristen-Lango thank you so much Kristen! I have Derwent Inktense and Graphitint which I need to experiment with more
