July 3rd thursday Crit format
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I did like the new format. There have been so many times I've entered and wanted to scream in frustration for not knowing what i did wrong. It was nice to know what i did that missed the mark, and what i did that was alright.
That being said, i really like the draw overs too. Sometimes being able to see the little things that could help take an image to the next level is so very helpful, no matter who's images are being critiqued.
I can see how it could easily hit 3-4 hours with the new format though. I think a happy medium could be reached somehow, say 1 draw over each, and a verbal feedback on the honorable mentions. I know when my image just gets shown with no comments, i try harder the next month.
Thanks again for doing the 3rd Thursdays, so much amazing information shared!!
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I really learn a lot from everybody´s and anybody´s work being critiqued, so I am ok with both formats. I think even hearing only the most prominent positive or negative aspect about each piece is a great learning experience, so I tend to prefer this new format, as it give more opportunities to review different types of work for their merits or learning opportunities. As others have said, maybe doing a couple of more extensive critiques of very few pieces, followed by a quick review of all works gives the best of both worlds.
My concern is that at the time this is usually done it is 5 am in my part of the world. Around 6:15 I have to wake up my kids and start the day, so it looks like I am going to consistently miss the second half....and of course it cuts into your sleeping hours!
Either way, I think it is an awesome format and you rock for investing so much of your time and effort in helping other artists to grow...so I am fine with however is done!By the way - since I missed half of it this morning - when will the recording be available?
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The video has been posted on youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG52L1bwU18
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Thanks for the feedback guys. It's nice to work this new format into the rotation. Of course, we aren't going to just do one or the other. Sometimes we will do drawovers and other times we will do the fast crit like last night, and even something in between. : )
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mybe every other can be an all critique, I learned alot from the draw-overs,
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@Lee-White Maybe you guys should do draw overs on all of them
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This was the best show for me, as I got to hear a response for each picture which is great for all the artists involved, but for me personally I learned more on a design and storytelling point of view.
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I like both formats, and the idea of putting this version into the mix. It is undoubtedly really helpful even to have a couple of words on what you did right, and where you could get better...even if it's just one good thing, and one thing to improve....because then you have a direction on where to improve next month. But I wouldn't want to lose the old format completely, because the draw-overs and extensive critique is really interesting and informative no matter whose work it is.
I'd be good with having a mixture of formats depending on what suits the month. For example, if you don't have so many entries (eg, maybe lots of people going on holiday and less time to draw) then it's easier to talk about everyone. But other months with bumper entries, then you could stick with fewer but more extensive critiques.
As others have said already, I too really appreciate the time you all put into 3rd Thursdays and SVS in general. It is a fantastic resource!
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I second a mixture of both! Thanks so much for what you do. SVS has helped me improve dramatically!
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This was my first entry into 3rd Thursday (after having watched many videos of previous crits) - I love the new format of everyone getting a brief critique, I greatly appreciated the feedback on my piece and was able to also learnt a lot from the higher number of other critiques. I think it works really well. Thanks!
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I like that you touch on each illustration. It really validates an artist's work after taking a lot of time and effort to come up with an idea. Plus, your conversational approach makes it very easy to listen to. It's like we're a part of the conversation (which if we're watching in real time, I guess we are.)
I think the weak link to the critique is that it is pretty long-winded, especially when you start getting excited about different artists, art principles, art history, etc. Now, don't get me wrong, I love to geek out about art, and if I had all night to listen to the critique and all the information and knowledge that you guys have to offer, I gladly would. Alas, responsibilities!
So here's an idea for a smoother format for future critiques. First, talk about one strong point in the illustration. Keep it short and simple stating what it is and why it works. You can even point out aspects that remind you of a famous artist, but keep it simple.
Second, point out one weakness. Again, keep it short and simple.
Lastly, offer what would really help the work to be a stronger piece. Keep it short and sweet, but this could be an opportunity to share what SVS classes might be helpful with developing the skills an artist may need to be more successful.
If you do this, I can almost guarantee your critiques will be under an hour.
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Thanks for the feedback guys! I agree with many of your points. Will, Jake, and I will be discussing all of it soon and will let you know what we come up with. : )
