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    EPISODE 08: YOUR CREATIVE BANK ACCOUNT

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    • Joen Söderholm
      Joen Söderholm last edited by

      Interesting episode. I think it ties in very well with both episode 1 and 3. What with the discussion about ideas, how to get them and how to actually turn them into something.

      I try to write down my dreams as soon as I wake up. Even if they don't give you any interesting ideas, it makes you remember the unexpected things that your own brain was able to create. I think it helps with creativity.

      Apparently I sometimes try to write down these dreams on my phone in the middle of the night. Which often makes me find interesting notes in my phone, like this one I just picked out at random:
      "Sewn on clothes, wings. Illusion of facade things are not what they seem".

      Thank you for your clear message, me from 3.55 A.M.

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      • holleywilliamson
        holleywilliamson SVS OG last edited by

        Thank you for this episode. I feel like I fill my creative bank account pretty well out of necessity from not being driven crazy by my kids. We have to get out and do things to keep them from fighting or having tantrums, but I also love exploring new areas for vacations. But translating that into ideas is another thing. A simple reminder to write ideas down is just what I need!

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        • Jason Bowen
          Jason Bowen SVS OG last edited by

          Interesting episode I enjoyed it as always... I use to write ideas down all the time especially when I wrote a lot but now I don't at all... I think if you have a great idea you would remember it, otherwise the idea isn't memorable enough and thus not that great.

          https://www.instagram.com/jasonbowenoils/

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          • Lee White
            Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG @Jason Bowen last edited by

            @jason-bowen i can understand that view point, but let me offer a different take. Many times big ideas start as a small grain of a thought or concept. They aren't fully formed yet. They grow and take shape and change over time. The big idea can come from connecting a lot of small seemingly random things.

            Getting those small little hints down is vitally important for moving work forward and getting to the big idea for most people. I know it is for me! : )

            SVS Faculty Instructor
            www.leewhiteillustration.com

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            • rcartwright
              rcartwright last edited by

              You take a train ride to a magic place......so Harry Potter?$$$$

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              • Jason Bowen
                Jason Bowen SVS OG @Lee White last edited by

                @lee-white I know what you mean but if everything is driving towards the great idea then every word or brush mark should be going in that direction... if I look at a dot to dot picture it looks false and wooden, but if I look at a drawing that wasn't formed by dots it looks smooth and natural... sometimes in creativity you have to give in to too much planning and allow some fluidity.

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                • Jason Bowen
                  Jason Bowen SVS OG @Lee White last edited by

                  @lee-white Not saying your way isn't good too mind you.

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                  • Joen Söderholm
                    Joen Söderholm last edited by

                    I think Sean Connery says it best in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade: "I wrote them down so that I wouldn't HAVE to remember them."

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                    • Jason Bowen
                      Jason Bowen SVS OG @Joen Söderholm last edited by

                      @joen-söderholm That was only in the script because it gave the book more importance.

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                      • MissMushy
                        MissMushy SVS OG last edited by

                        Another good podcast, guys! I think the idea of taking yourself on a creative date that @Lee-White mentioned is from Julia Cameron's "The Artist's Way" .
                        I find recently that focus (or lack of focus) is my biggest challenge. So I tend to not want to do too much wandering off track for fear of losing focus completely. As a result, I can spend weeks and weeks in front of my desk just slogging along. ( I also love solitude so that doesn't help)
                        The podcast was a good reminder that actually living life is ok too - and I shouldn't feel guilty about reading a book or watching Shrek again. I guess the trick for me is knowing when I am filling my creative bank vs when I am just procrastinating!

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                        • Eli
                          Eli @MissMushy last edited by

                          @missmushy YES!!! Finding that distinction and that balance is such a tricky challenge!!

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                          • Joen Söderholm
                            Joen Söderholm @Jason Bowen last edited by

                            @jason-bowen does that change that writing stuff down is a good way to keep track of it?

                            We all have different approaches to our ideas. I don't think we can say that certain approaches will always end up with something more "false and wooden" than others. It's more about what works best for you. I like to write down my ideas because I know that I will forget even the good ones in my mind's constant flow of bad, mediocre and good ideas. Also, it's just interesting to look back at my own train (to a magical land) of thought.

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                            • Jason Bowen
                              Jason Bowen SVS OG @Joen Söderholm last edited by

                              @joen-söderholm I agree you should do what works best for you. I use to write every idea I had down and most of it was rubbish haha... I came to the conclusion that my great ideas are the ones I always remember.

                              https://www.instagram.com/jasonbowenoils/

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                              • Laurel Aylesworth
                                Laurel Aylesworth last edited by

                                Thank you for this podcast. It's timely. I have two small kids and now that school is out for the summer, I have gone from 4 hours a day to work on my stuff to 0 minutes. Needless to say, my sense of progressing in illustration and my portfolio is dead in the water until the fall; however, this shifted my mindset from grouchiness and despair to more acceptance. Now I take a few moments to peruse art books, space out at the ocean, and plan trips to museums. I realize there are seasons for active work and seasons for more creative composting.

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                                • Nathan
                                  Nathan last edited by

                                  Great podcast. Love the idea of the "ideas book".

                                  The idea of an artistic date is from "The Artists Way" by Julia Cameron. I love taking time out of the week to re-energise my creative bank account 🙂

                                  Check out my latest drawings: https://www.instagram.com/nathan_creates/

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                                  • AbbyLucero
                                    AbbyLucero last edited by

                                    This podcast is great! It’s packfull of really useful and insightful stuff. Thank you! I have read Choose yourself and found writing my ideas geeat but I never did anything with them. But after the podcast, ship happens I’ve been motivated to make my ideas more than that!
                                    I agree with @Lee-White I had trouble finishing a sketchbook for fear of “ruining” them. I’ve seen other people’s sketchbook online looking really nice and like a showcase book and as soon as I have a bad drawing in mine I abandon it! Referring to it as an idea book is a great idea. Oh! And isn’t the “taking a train to a magical place” idea pretty much Harry Potter?

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                                    • SarahLuAnn
                                      SarahLuAnn last edited by SarahLuAnn

                                      I missed this episode while I was on vacation but I am catching up! Lots of great thoughts here and I agree with so many of them, so to keep things short I’ll just say I love this episode. I came here to say that the Artists Date comes from the Artists Way book but I see that @Concept beat me to it. 😉

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                                      • Samu
                                        Samu last edited by Samu

                                        Hi!

                                        I practically agree with everything about the CBA and the ways you propose to feed it.

                                        But to what point that methods creates a diference on our drawing capacity? I think not

                                        I read comics and books all my life, I watch a loooot of films and series, I watch a lot Animation, Anime included (One Piece fan). I'm a sports person, I snowboard very decently, mountain biking, longboarding... I dance every day for 5 years now. I was an illustration collector and a professional Tattoo Artist for 10 years and professional Photographer and Retoucher last 3 years.

                                        My CBA is good enough I believe....

                                        And I don't have any way to access it. I'm very good at copying things, I can draw very good realism with a source or a model in front of me. But when it comes to creating something.... I'm blank! I can not picture in my mind the things I want to create.
                                        I think that any regular person today has a biiiig CBA only from watching tv, films, series... any person. But some can actually access that CBA and others not. So my point is "Are you confusing the access capacity of the CBA with building that CBA"?

                                        Thanks for your work. Is helping me a lot!!!!!

                                        I let you with one of my tattoos made like 12 years ago.

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                                        • TessaW
                                          TessaW @Samu last edited by

                                          @zombie-rhythm said in EPISODE 08: YOUR CREATIVE BANK ACCOUNT:

                                          And I don't have any way to access it. I'm very good at copying things, I can draw very good realism with a source or a model in front of me. But when it comes to creating something.... I'm blank! I can not picture in my mind the things I want to create.

                                          I wanna make sure I'm understanding you correctly: Is your problem that you don't know how to execute your ideas without using an exact reference to copy, or is it that you don't have any ideas in general?

                                          If it's that you don't know how to make work without directly copying reference- then it's just a matter of building up certain art skills. Have you studied perspective drawing and building up drawings using simple 3D shapes? If I gave you one photo of a teapot and asked you to draw that teapot sitting on a cube, and then draw the teapot and cube from many different angles, would you be able to do it? If the answer is no, then once you study perspective and constructive drawing, and after that perhaps lighting and color, you will be able to start combining that with your observational skills and reference to create anything you want.

                                          If it's just a matter of not having any ideas in general, then I don't have a good answer!

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                                          • Samu
                                            Samu @TessaW last edited by

                                            Hi!.
                                            Second case. Not that I don't have any ideas, ideas are free and they are everywhere. Ideas are never the problem. Most commercial successes started with a very bad idea. I can't visualize scenes with detail and style good enough and we can draw what we can visualize. I want to create worlds like Frazetta or Bisley. Worlds with his own personality, not copies of real life but real life inspired.

                                            Exactly, We Don't Have A Good Answer!

                                            My point is: Are we completely sure, without a trace of doubt, that "building" a CBA is necessary? Are we completely sure that we all don't have CBA enough since we were children? or even in that case, Are we completely sure that creating the CBA make us better artists and not worst or not worst not better (which I think is the case)?

                                            Because I think that we are talking about two different things, the existence of that CBA and the Acces to that CBA. The simple fact that we can recognize things are proof that the CBA is already installed in our brain. Berni Wrightson and other artists could draw things that they never view before, for example. I imagine a long room full of resources, some people have the ability to open the door and enter ten meters, others can go further and some even reach the bottom and take whatever they want, while others can't even open the door easily.
                                            And Frazetta example which I mentioned in another post more extensively. Frazetta had the "power" to access the CBA and lose it over 8 years due to a Thyroid gland problem. Over that 8 years, he was incapable of making good art. "All the marvelous images that normally came to my mind stopped"

                                            Because if that is the case, we are working in a completely different scenario and we have to concentrate on mental exercises, visualization, meditation, etc... instead on looking for things that we already have.

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