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    • Nyrryl  Cadiz
      Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG last edited by

      You’re work is amazing! 2 hours to reach this level ofcomplexity is not slow. You’re on the right path.

      Portfolio: nyrrylcadiz.com
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      • TessaW
        TessaW last edited by

        Why do you think 2 hours is too slow? Seems perfectly reasonable for something like this. I mean, I just recently watched a Proko video where he draws with Cesar Santos in a museum. They decide to study a Sargent portrait. Cesar suggests a time limit of 30 min, and Proko exclaims that he can't do anything in 30 min. They do an hour, and that was for a portrait in a simple pose. In another video, Cesar does another portrait study. The video is about 30 mins long, and the video is sped up quite a bit when he's drawing. I wouldn't be surprised if he spent 1-2 hours on that portrait.

        As long as you are drawing with intent and really studying and learning from the figure you're drawing, I wouldn't be concerned with your speed. Understand that realistic studies of the human figure take time, even for people respected as great figure artists. You may gain more speed with practice, but don't give yourself unrealistic expectations as far as speed goes.

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          aaimiller last edited by aaimiller

          I agree with @TessaW ! 2 hours isn't unreasonable, especially for a figure study where you are focusing on getting structure correct and proportional (rather than focusing on the light or texture or atmosphere etc...).

          A few tips anyway:

          A little more time spent in the loose gesture stage can pay dividends in speed . There are a few parts of the video where you redraw large features ( mostly the arms). If you can catch these issues earlier, they're easier to fix and you'll spend less time redrawing stuff.

          This is a small thing, but after the gesture phase, make a new layer and find brushes that are closer to what you want the final result to look like. You do spend some time in the video reshaping your lines.

          It looks great though!

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            melinahealy last edited by

            Hello 🙂

            I love the way you have drawn this, the definition of her legs is beautiful and I like the use you soft and hard lines. I am also quite slow and I find it frustrating, but I think speed is something that naturally comes with time and a lot of drawing. Thanks for sharing 🙂

            https://www.instagram.com/melina_healy/

            https://www.instagram.com/melina_healy/

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            • Chance McGee
              Chance McGee last edited by

              Thanks @TessaW and @aaimiller I think you guys are right. I did this drawing after about an hour of shorter timed gestures. I started off with 30 sec gestures, then to 1 min and worked my way up to this one.

              I want to do more anatomy studies but generally whenever I do them I don't feel like I retain the information. I've found that fast timed drawings are the best in terms of learning and structure, in general I feel like I learn more from a fast gesture than from a long rendered study...

              These are from a different drawing session but I think you can get an idea. I liked them but my drawings seem to fall apart whenever there's exaggerated perspective or overlap, I don't feel like I'm getting better at it... I'll probably make a separate thread just with those drawings for feedback.

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              • Chance McGee
                Chance McGee @aaimiller last edited by

                @aaimiller very good idea with the brushes, I feel like I'm in permanent experimentation mode sometimes 😆

                I love the colors in your work btw.

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                • Chance McGee
                  Chance McGee @kaitlinmakes last edited by

                  @kaitlinmakes wow Jeff Watts has some amazing work. Thanks for the kind words 🙏 @melinahealy thank you, yeah it's true that you get faster with time and practice but what I really liked about @Lee-White 's method is that he breaks it down to a science, I just feel like I could work smarter 😆

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                    aaimiller @Chance McGee last edited by aaimiller

                    @chance-mcgee thanks! I'm trying to get better at drawing from memory too. A great exercise I've been doing recently is:

                    1: draw from a reference ~10 minutes
                    2: draw the same figure from memory
                    3: fix any problems in the memory drawing with a red pen
                    4: repeat! Usually 3-4 times per reference

                    Who knows if it's effective, but it seems fun for now.

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                    • Lee White
                      Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG @Chance McGee last edited by

                      @chance-mcgee hey! these are really nice! You are doing great!

                      I think the problem is in your quick sketch. You are getting too hung up in construction and anatomy. Especially during the short poses. The line of action and smooth gesture need to be set up first. These are simple lines and are typically build using light c and s curves. You aren't interlinking the body parts yet, just establishing overall shape and keeping things simple.

                      try doing a bunch of 30 second gestures with no real anatomy. Just smooth shapes.

                      Hope this helps some. Again, I think your work looks sweet!

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                      SVS Faculty Instructor
                      www.leewhiteillustration.com

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                      • Lee White
                        Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG last edited by

                        BTW, we are teaming up with Proko and just launched a new gesture class for our subscribers. Watch it! Stan studied with Jeff Watts who was mentioned earlier (I also studied under him as well for a short time).

                        https://courses.svslearn.com/courses/how-to-draw-gesture

                        SVS Faculty Instructor
                        www.leewhiteillustration.com

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