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    • demotlj
      demotlj SVS OG last edited by

      Still very preliminary but trying to get the composition down before I go any further. The first uses my original idea in which I was trying to depict a small pond and lead the eye to the migrating flock. The second makes the pond bigger in order to avoid the far shore cutting across the necks of the geese but makes the migrating flock feel less important I think. Which do you think works better?

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      Laurie DeMott
      instagram.com/demotlj

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      • KathrynAdebayo
        KathrynAdebayo last edited by

        The first image feels open and balanced to me, and so long as the shore doesn't go behind their faces, I think it won't cause any problems. I'd say the first choice looks great! I'm very excited to see more of this piece. Such a clever idea. 🙂

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        • chrisaakins
          chrisaakins last edited by chrisaakins

          The geese's heads are right in the center of the page. I suggest either cropping the image or move them up in the page to make them more central to the image. Maybe even enlarging them a bit.

          Chris Akins
          www.chrisakinsart.com
          www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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          • Debra Garcia
            Debra Garcia last edited by

            Perhaps if the page was a portrait rather than landscape orientation you could have the shoreline further away, but still keep the open sky.

            As it is, I don't think the shoreline intersecting the necks is a problem. It might be if they weren't long-necked animals, though.

            I love the increased energy of the sketch compared to the thumbnail. The diagonal lines from the suitcase and the 3/4 back view of the standing goose add that needed "are we lost?" tension.

            https://www.instagram.com/febbieg/

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            • demotlj
              demotlj SVS OG last edited by

              I’m hesitant to post this because it’s still very rough but I’m trying to keep myself going on it. I enlarged the foreground geese and started to choose a color palette while trying to stay with the values I chose in my original value study. I am trying to remember how to paint digitally because I’ve been teaching myself watercolors for the past four months and it’s weird going back to Procreate! Eventually, I’ll try to make the characters look less pasted on, define edges, add modeling and shadows, and put some reflects and variation in the pond to make it look more like water, but it’ll be a few days before I can get back to it because weekends are my heavy time at work.

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              Laurie DeMott
              instagram.com/demotlj

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              • chrisaakins
                chrisaakins last edited by

                I think the composition totally works with the changes you made. Color and value really change the way your eyes move around the piece. Good job.

                Chris Akins
                www.chrisakinsart.com
                www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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                • T
                  Tony Barber last edited by

                  Great concept! Would love to see more.

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                  • demotlj
                    demotlj SVS OG last edited by

                    I’m going to sit on this for a day. I haven’t done a lot of pieces without line so I’m not sure how far to go with the rendering. Since the geese are cartoony I don’t think I should get too detailed with the background but I’m not sure how detailed is too much or too little. Feel free to critique this.

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                    Laurie DeMott
                    instagram.com/demotlj

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                    • juliemillardart
                      juliemillardart last edited by

                      I really like this one. I think I prefer the small pond. Great execution of your idea!

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                      • kaitlinmakes
                        kaitlinmakes last edited by

                        Really love the story with this piece
                        I agree - I don't think you need to render the back more because of atmosphere, but you might want to adjust the geese in the back - right now their saturation is high and don't match the background/compete with the main geese.
                        For rendering - maybe touch up the front leaves to bring them forward.

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                        • demotlj
                          demotlj SVS OG @kaitlinmakes last edited by

                          @kaitlinmakes Good point about the flying geese. I knew they didn't feel quite right but I thought maybe it was that they didn't look as cartoony. I'll try changing the saturation and see if that helps.

                          Laurie DeMott
                          instagram.com/demotlj

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                          • KathrynAdebayo
                            KathrynAdebayo last edited by

                            I love this piece. 🙂

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                            • demotlj
                              demotlj SVS OG last edited by

                              I think this is the final version unless someone sees something that needs to be fixed. Thanks for everyone’s help.

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                              Laurie DeMott
                              instagram.com/demotlj

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                              • NessIllustration
                                NessIllustration Pro @demotlj last edited by

                                @demotlj Wow this is such a great piece! I love your style, the colors and painterly look of the background remind me a lot of impressionism and it's really well done!

                                I see a few really simple things that you could do to take this piece to the next level, I hope you don't mind but I tweaked it a bit in Photoshop to show you what I mean:

                                0_1537450043480_fall.jpg

                                Here's what I did:

                                1. Added atmospheric perspective. That's the way colors will change depending of how close or far they are. The closer to us, the more saturated and bright they'll be. The closer to the sky, the more they'll start to fade into the color of the sky. In your image, all three levels has pretty similar colors which was flattening it a bit. I picked the colors of the sky and applied it in transparency over your background island. Then I desaturated a little bit the yellow in the middle island, and on the opposite I saturated more the foreground where the geese are.

                                2. Tweaks to the shadows. I noticed the light source is a little bit inconsistent in your painting. The goose on the right has the clearest shadow, from in front of him, but the case he's holding has shadow from the right and none of the other surroundings has any defined shadows to help us. I shaded the ground under the case, the goose on the left and the tree to all follow the same direction. Darkened the shadows in general so they're a bit more pronounced. Added the shadow of the middle island in the water. And finally, added a little bit of shadow on the case and geese that's consistent with that light source.

                                I hope that helps! I do think it's a wonderful image even as is without changes 🙂 Great job!

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                                • demotlj
                                  demotlj SVS OG @NessIllustration last edited by

                                  @nessillustration These are great changes. I'm still trying to figure out both color and shadows and your tweaks really help. I'll play with it a bit more to see if I can do what you have suggested. Thanks.

                                  Laurie DeMott
                                  instagram.com/demotlj

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                                  • chrisaakins
                                    chrisaakins last edited by

                                    @demotlj I think this looks really nice with all the detail you have added. The composition is really good. I love the idea of the piece, too. It reminds me of one of those Far Side scenarios. I imagine the captions to be "When nature does not give you good instincts."

                                    Chris Akins
                                    www.chrisakinsart.com
                                    www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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                                    • demotlj
                                      demotlj SVS OG @chrisaakins last edited by

                                      @chrisaakins I posted this to my Facebook feed and my family started submitting captions too, but I like yours the best!

                                      Laurie DeMott
                                      instagram.com/demotlj

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                                      • demotlj
                                        demotlj SVS OG @NessIllustration last edited by

                                        @nessillustration I added some of the changes you suggested to my final piece but changing saturation levels proved hard because my layers were not arranged in a way that made that super easy (and I’m working in Procreate.) Next time I’m going to think about and arrange layers as foreground, midground, and background to try to pay more attention to those changes in saturation. Great tip — thanks so much.

                                        Laurie DeMott
                                        instagram.com/demotlj

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                                        • NessIllustration
                                          NessIllustration Pro @demotlj last edited by

                                          @demotlj That's too bad, but the piece will be really great anyway 🙂

                                          vanessastoilova.com
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                                          Check out my Youtube channel for tips on how to start your career in illustration! www.youtube.com/c/ArtBusinesswithNess

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                                          • demotlj
                                            demotlj SVS OG @NessIllustration last edited by

                                            @nessillustration I was thinking more about the saturation levels and have a quick question for you: because the foreground is in the warm tones, how do you keep the saturation level higher without detracting from the main characters who are cool in tone? I've already posted this piece and am not going to fiddle with it any more but for future reference, I'd like to understand better how to balance value, saturation, and focal points especially in a painting where the focal point is in cool colors. What advice would you give there?

                                            Laurie DeMott
                                            instagram.com/demotlj

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