The moment before WIP
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@Kevin-Longueil Oh wow that's awesome! I like the strong light on the diving board and such. In this particular case, I'm going to keep my lighting close to as is, though. The reason being that I'm trying to get in the habit of figuring out my lighting in the thumb and comp stage, and then sticking to it. That being said, if I redo the piece (which I might
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@evilrobot I'm using the newest version of painter, yes. What do mean by colour management issues?
As far as I know you still can't have another window open on a second monitor
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@Braden-Hallett seemed like when I opened the file in Photoshop (even if I saved the color profile with the document in Painter) The image would look completely different in Photoshop than in Painter. I have painter 2015 still new in the box I was never able to get it to work right. (It might have been that Windows 2010 had some issues messing the profiles up as well) But the no dual monitor thing pretty much kills it for me. I got to have that.
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@evilrobot painter uses some different layer types that don't necessarily mesh with photoshop. However, photoshop will do its best to interpret those layers (It'll turn a 'colourize' to 'colour' and a few other just to 'multiply') so sometimes if you import a layered file created in painter into photoshop things can get wacky.
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@Braden-Hallett Actually went ahead and upgraded to 2019 version last night. Now just have to figure out a work flow using it. Hard to mesh painted colors with line work for me you seemed to have figured it out with yours.
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@evilrobot If you ever want brushes or workspaces, let me know
There are all sorts of little magic to sort of make painter behave like photoshop.Have you joined the discord channel for the arts? There's a few SVS students on there and it makes it easy to chat.
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@Braden-Hallett No what's the discord channel for the arts? lol...And yes, I'd love any help you can offer on Painter.
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@Braden-Hallett Love it! I get that "pit in my stomach" feeling just looking at him. Awesome perspective!
shinjifujioka.com
https://www.facebook.com/shinjifujiokaart
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@evilrobot Discord is a voice/text chatting app mostly used by gamers. @JerrySketchyArt kindly allowed us to use the 'discord for the arts' channel for our environment run through, and we use the voice channel to chat sometimes. It's an easier way to chat in person than the forums.
If you feel like it, download discord and I'll shoot you a link. It's all free
If not, that's cool, and you can ask me painter related questions anytime you like anyhoo!
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@shinjifujioka Thank you
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@Braden-Hallett Yeah, I enjoyed those critiques! I'm glad they're planning on bringing that back.
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Love it! It’s coming along fabulously. No real feedback Other than it looks awesome!
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@Whitney-Simms Thank you
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@Braden-Hallett very interesting that you are sticking with a process. I often got sidetracked and ended up taking a lot more time on a piece. I enjoyed seeing your monthly contest process. Learned a lot. Thanks for sharing.
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@xin-li You're welcome! I get more from sharing and feedback than I think others do
And yeah, I'm really tryin' to stick to a process and only alter it slightly a little bit at a time. It seems to help, especially when it comes to getting all the puzzle pieces on the page if you get hat I mean.
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@Braden-Hallett said in The moment before WIP:
I get more from sharing and feedback than I think others do
and by that I mean, by sharing, I'm getting more out of the deal as the sharer than the sharee's.
I have NO idea if that made sense or not :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:
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@Braden-Hallett It's been great to watch this develop and get hints at what is your process. I keep here the SVS guys mention this-and I submitted a suggestion that they devote an upcoming podcast to this-Jake said they'd take it on.
If you care to describe yours, I'd appreciate it.
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@Susan-Marks Thanks
It's been great to work through these things and get feedback on my process.When you say 'care to describe yours' do you mean my process?
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I think I'm pretty close to calling this one done. I'm gonna let it sit for a week
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@Braden-Hallett Yes-my interest is in having you describe your process.
I gather from an earlier post that you start with:
Pitch
Thumbs
Rough Comps
Color comps
-When do the value studies come in?And later you responded positively to a suggestion, but that you were going to stick with your process, which included sorting out that (lighting, I believe) in one of the earlier steps in your process, so you were going to stick with the process, and not go back and redo that part.
As I mentioned, I've heard Lee and Will mention this ..."Once I found my process and stick with it, then I work out appropriate details earlier, which saves me time later.." (that's heavy paraphrasing from me on this).
I find that I thumbnail a lot, then do what I call "first pencils", and then 2nd pencils, and then perhaps on to inking. I do this because I'm just so new to it-so I'm trying to figure out what's most important early on. I also accept that in my newness, I make some choices early on, that simply are not right/good--and only later to I see these mistakes, and then I really want to correct them. There's some value in that, but in the long run it won't be efficient. And it can lead me to dithering over and over--and not taking something to finish. I've been pushing through-because I do see the errors (opportunities) only later, perhaps with a bit of distance and small amount of subjectivity that for me comes more with the passage of a little time.
Always curious how others with more experience make this work.
