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    • braden H
      braden H last edited by

      I think @JerrySketchyArt is right. Just gotta go do a few pages of practice lines ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • VivianTong
        VivianTong last edited by

        Seconding practice!

        My first half dozen or so brush pen inked pieces were really similarly inconsistent in line quality

        Because it is a flexible brush tip, it's more important to pay attention to what angle and direction your pen is going in and if the brush is still holding a good point

        I use a pentel color brush which has the synthetic bristles instead of a felt brush tip and have to remember that drawing a circle has to be done in two half circles instead of one stroke. If you hold the brush at more of an angle too, that'll change up the lines you're getting.

        You'll get there! Brushes are just so sensitive but it's really satisfying when it works out

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        • chrisaakins
          chrisaakins last edited by

          @danielerossi I agree about practicing but a quick hack is to turn the page in the direction of your better stroke until you get the hang of it.

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          • VivianTong
            VivianTong @JerrySketchyArt last edited by

            @JerrySketchyArt omg the pentel brush pens have such a learning curve!

            I thought I had a pretty delicate hand with pens and pencils but those brush pens are on a different level of difficult

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            • NessIllustration
              NessIllustration Pro @danielerossi last edited by

              @danielerossi Turn your paper in the direction you need to get either the thick or thin lines ๐Ÿ™‚

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              • theprairiefox
                theprairiefox @danielerossi last edited by

                @danielerossi besides practice... I would recommend that you rotate your paper. Your stokes end up being different depending on the direction you are pulling or pushing your hand. I rotate my paper a lot to get different types of lines.

                Just a thought.

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                • JerrySketchyArt
                  JerrySketchyArt @VivianTong last edited by JerrySketchyArt

                  @VivianTong said in Brush pen control:

                  I thought I had a pretty delicate hand with pens and pencils but those brush pens are on a different level of difficult

                  You can't truly understand @Jake-Parker 's reference to drawing with "butterfly kisses" until you've met the Pocket Brush.

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                  • Coley
                    Coley @JerrySketchyArt last edited by

                    @JerrySketchyArt so that explains my recent screaming bouts...........ha ha ha

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                    • danielerossi
                      danielerossi last edited by

                      Thanks everyone! After reading all your replies, Iโ€™m smacking my forehead ๐Ÿ™‚ I didnโ€™t even think of turning the paper! I guess I was way too focused on technique.

                      I didnโ€™t know how sensitive brushes would be. Leave it to me to choose what ended up being the most difficult one. ๐Ÿ™ƒ Although, the instructor in the brush pen course did mention how it usually takes him 6 months to get the hang of a new brush pen so I have at least 5 and a half more months to go!

                      @VivianTong Thank you for your tip on drawing half circles in order to draw a full circle. This is definitely a new medium for me!

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                      • J
                        jdubz last edited by

                        Are you using a brush pen with the flexible middle area where the ink well is held? Something I didn't realize when I first started was squeezing that area to quickly refill the tip.

                        So for super clean and thin lines you're using a lot of tip control but you're going to need to keep it pretty saturated for the consistency, so squeezing that more often will keep it from breaking the lines. When you don't get that line you're looking for, the reaction is to press harder which then makes it worse ๐Ÿ˜›

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                        • ArtofAleksey
                          ArtofAleksey last edited by

                          Yeah what @NessIllustration said, turn the paper or change hand positions or both.

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                          • JerrySketchyArt
                            JerrySketchyArt @danielerossi last edited by

                            @danielerossi If you want a less sensitive brush in your arsenal this Tombow set is really nice. I primarily use the Pentels, but these are great when you're looking for something more solid.

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                            • danielerossi
                              danielerossi @JerrySketchyArt last edited by

                              @JerrySketchyArt Thanks for the recommendation! Iโ€™ll write that down and keep it in mind if I end up failing to take the Pentel ๐Ÿ™‚

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                              • danielerossi
                                danielerossi last edited by

                                And now tonight, suddenly, my brush pen is flowing too much ink. No matter how lightly I go, no matter how I turn the paper, Iโ€™m getting more ink coming out than previously. A Google search only brought up advice for less ink flow. Not the other way around.

                                Iโ€™m getting little pools of ink. Did I break my brush pen? I swear I didnโ€™t press too hard or hard at all!

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                                • JerrySketchyArt
                                  JerrySketchyArt @danielerossi last edited by

                                  @danielerossi Which type do you have? Left or right?

                                  20191010_220024.jpg

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                                  • danielerossi
                                    danielerossi @JerrySketchyArt last edited by

                                    @JerrySketchyArt Right

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                                    • VivianTong
                                      VivianTong @danielerossi last edited by

                                      @danielerossi I've had this issue with both types of pentel pen in the photo that @JerrySketchyArt posted

                                      I usually have just defaulted to keeping a scrap paper or tissue to wipe away excess ink on the brush and it also keeps me checking that the brush tip is still good shape

                                      Following in case there's a better solution!

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                                      • JerrySketchyArt
                                        JerrySketchyArt @danielerossi last edited by

                                        @danielerossi Okay, that one does not have any special way to control the ink flow amount. (The one on the left can control it by squeezing.) My guess is that it just wasn't flowing steady on your first couple of goes and is now working as intended. I store mine tip up, and it still flows like mad from the moment I start.

                                        The pocket brush is crazy sensitive as previously mentioned. You can do what Vivian mentioned and just wipe away excess, or do what I do and embrace the fact that lines will come out on their own terms. "Happy little accidents!" That brush is a bit like watercolor, in that it adds variety whether you like it, or not. I've recently started playing with using short, animator type lines, to give it even more unpredictable life!

                                        Here's an example of one of my favorite pieces from a recent sketchbook full of elephants using this technique (prompt was "tired"):
                                        20190823_122043.jpg

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                                        • JerrySketchyArt
                                          JerrySketchyArt last edited by JerrySketchyArt

                                          As a comparison, here is one with the easy-peasy-to-control Tombow (and a gel pen, prompt "frail"):

                                          20191008_121540.jpg

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                                          • danielerossi
                                            danielerossi @JerrySketchyArt last edited by

                                            @JerrySketchyArt said in Brush pen control:

                                            My guess is that it just wasn't flowing steady on your first couple of goes and is now working as intended. I store mine tip up, and it still flows like mad from the moment I start.

                                            I have to admit, Iโ€™m laughing now. Here I am thinking I broke my brush pen but it turns out itโ€™s acting the way it should be! But I got used to itโ€™s less steady, fresh out of the package flow ๐Ÿ™ƒThanks for clearing that up for me, Jerry. I was about to give up on the brush pen. Now to get used to the gusher.

                                            I really like learning this new medium. Itโ€™s a whole new laws of physics.

                                            The pocket brush is crazy sensitive as previously mentioned. You can do what Vivian mentioned and just wipe away excess,

                                            @VivianTong I tried that last night. I used a paper towel (probably not the best thing to use) but the heavy flow continued. Which, as Jerry taught me, is supposed to happen ๐Ÿ™‚

                                            That brush is a bit like watercolor, in that it adds variety whether you like it, or not.

                                            That is so true. There I was thinking to myself โ€œ I donโ€™t want my circle to look that thick! Thinner! Thinner!โ€. Iโ€™m going to give the short, animator type lines a try.

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