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    • kai satoshi
      kai satoshi last edited by

      Subway Girl
      CS6- Wacom Bamboo Create Tablet
      Subway Girl.jpg

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        Alberto M last edited by Alberto M

        points I see that you might find userful:

        1. dont use blur tool, if you want to use it mimic a photograph or a video frame that's blurry, so it's not that random (I used to abuse it myself when more noob)
        2. ear positoin is too close and too high if you compare to the eye, ear starts in the midle line that cut the circle of the profile head.
        3. draw hair like everything else, as a mass, then go to detail it, at the moment shading is not consistent as on the rest of the picture
        4. that rose is gud, but it's like another image pasted in because it's way more detailed than rest of the image
        5. skin cant be darked with black and wee see some blacks over there, only if you mind using magenta/blues to it, it will make it more readable and beilable. mid tones and highlights are good on skin
          5 the yellow light that makes the edges should have some variation in thickness
        6. eyes third eyelid should ve visible, if you want to make them more cute, avoid drawing a closed siluette dark line around it, make it softer
        7. the loop epic foreshortenig is in contrast with the calm composition and stable hair, it would be better without it at all, it's doing something weird with the image border, let it rest
        8. background yellow light spots could be white in the inside, it would be readen as white light more realistically and it would make the yellow push less that oversaturated hair (it's nice, but maybe with more darker and less saturated parts would make more volume

        kudos for cute face

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        • kai satoshi
          kai satoshi last edited by

          Thanks Alberto for your points. This is kind of a "Suckerpunch" inspired piece. So a bit more fantasy inspired which is why the ribbon is moving and nothing else is... almost like it's alive.
          Yeah, I only used the blur tool on the ribbons coming forward, then used a "tilt-shift" blur on the rest of the image.
          A lot of the dark I used was either blue or purple but perhaps too close to black if that is how it is reading 🙂
          Thanks for your points Alberto, I'll keep them all in mind on my next go round 🙂

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          • kai satoshi
            kai satoshi @Alberto M last edited by

            @Alberto-M

            Here is some painting over I did based on your suggestions.Subway Girl 2.jpg

            Worked on the ear position
            I blurred the rose a bit so it didn't look pasted on the image
            Lightened the shadows on the skin
            Added tear ducts and a bit of the third eyelid
            Eyeliner lightened slightly
            The light in the windows was given a lighter center then the entire background was darkened to make the character stand out more.
            A couple other things but Thats the main stuff.

            Thanks 🙂

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              Alberto M last edited by Alberto M

              I think it went worse:
              muddy colors, it has less saturation contrast
              it has less value contrast
              it went gray
              eye tears are so hard, ear better

              let me show my aproach to it

              fixes.jpg

              Darker and less saturated hair
              Color level adjustements to make shadows go to blue/magenta
              mid levels go to yellow magenta
              light levels go to yellow
              liquify tool to change proportions a bit, it's more cute when eyes are closer to the nose, eyes distance is bigger, ear is not just smaller, its more rounded, etc..
              lights at bg are 0 saturation max brigh, transition to it's own color
              few layers affecting only the bg to separate just a bit the values
              eyes bottom with propper make up technicques, you gotta understand what makes a face prettier, where make up artists put the highlights and shadow is to fake volumes
              eye borders should be soft rather that that closed ovaloid

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              • kai satoshi
                kai satoshi @Alberto M last edited by kai satoshi

                @Alberto-M
                Thanks Alberto. I'll definitely be playing around with some of the things you are talking about. It may take me a while :). I guess I misunderstood on a couple of things... I had thought you were thinking I should lighten the character and shadows etc. 🙂 There is a lot for me to think about... I'm just now starting to learn adjustment layers and how to control them so this will take me some time to figure out :).

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                  Alberto M last edited by

                  tools I used:
                  liquify(to change eyes size and position, arm, neck, ear, hair volume..)
                  new layers in different modes: overlay, color (to color even more the shadow zones with the hair's color), soft light, normal
                  color adjustment
                  hue/saturation adjustment (affecting only magentas)

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                  • kai satoshi
                    kai satoshi @Alberto M last edited by

                    @Alberto-M
                    Thanks a bunch Alberto! :). If you can think of any tutorials anywhere that might help me I would love to hear your suggestions. Thanks again! I've got a bunch of stuff I have to do today but I will be playing with this image again when I get time and attempt your suggestions :).

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                      Alberto M last edited by Alberto M

                      look the tool name and google it, that, then play around, I don't know the exact english name for them

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                      • kai satoshi
                        kai satoshi @Alberto M last edited by

                        @Alberto-M
                        I know where all the tools are and blending modes that you mentioned... I'm just not wonderful yet at using them to their potential 😞

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                          Alberto M @kai satoshi last edited by

                          @Kris-Knight it's about messing around, remember to play with opacity too, because most times it won't help at 100%

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                          • kai satoshi
                            kai satoshi @Alberto M last edited by kai satoshi

                            @Alberto-M
                            Here we go again 🙂
                            Subway Girl 3.jpg

                            Played around with a few different adjustment layers as well as messing with the eyes, back, sleeve, chin, ear, hair, rose, background light. Hope this looks like the right direction lol. 🙂

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                            • Leontine
                              Leontine @kai satoshi last edited by

                              @Kris-Knight Love the rendering and the concept. What I think is: why is she looking so sad, wile the colors are so bright? it doesn't seem to fit together. Why is the bow red? can you try to make a version where the colors are toned down? It al seems a bit out of place. The white of the sleeve has to much detail. the rest hasn't got any winkles and suddenly the sleeve has. that looks a bit awkward. If you flip the illustration you can see that the face needs some work, The nose should stick out more. 1438008731501-subway-girl-3.jpg good luck!

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                              • kai satoshi
                                kai satoshi last edited by kai satoshi

                                Well, Good or Bad I'm going to call this one done. lol What was it Jake said, "Not perfect but done." Something like that anyway. I appreciate all the critiques!!! It gave me lots to think about as well as trying to fix some issues that others saw. Thanks a Bunch!!!

                                Subway Girl 4.jpg

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                                • Rob Smith
                                  Rob Smith last edited by

                                  I think you ended up with an improved image Kris.

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                                  • Leontine
                                    Leontine @kai satoshi last edited by

                                    @Kris-Knight I agree with Rob. Evey time you make a new one, your improving yourself! Well done!

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