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    Shan Shan's World - Children's Book Project (珊珊的世界)

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    • Eliana Bastidas
      Eliana Bastidas last edited by

      Sorry I forgot yesterday.
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      The first figure, to me, a normal pose while saying hello wouldn't have the shoulders up.

      The face that is in the middle, I just tweaked the eye a bit.

      The last pose, I think mainly the arms were weird, because the arms are curved up, and you can't curve your arms that way because of the elbow, the more they go back, the more straight they are. When I do that pose, my hands are open the way I drew them, I just messed up with the thumb, it looks weird in my drawing.

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      • Eliana Bastidas
        Eliana Bastidas last edited by Eliana Bastidas

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        1. The faces looking up without showing the neck made me feel that it flattened the image.

        2. tweaked the head a bit, when you are looking down, you should put the nose way down, touching the lips and the way you see the eyes also change.
          Here is an example, I used this as my reference:
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        3. same feedback as image number 2.

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        • Meekipink
          Meekipink @Guest last edited by

          @JQ Yes! It's like cartoony realism - it's what makes your pieces so instantly recognisable. I LOVE your rendering style. I'm still paralysed by colour and rendering, which is why I'm so impressed by your skill and level of output ^_^

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          • Meekipink
            Meekipink @Eliana Bastidas last edited by

            @Eliana-Bastidas This is really helpful feedback!

            @JQ I recently watched a class by Wouter Tulp on Schoolism which absolutely BLEW my mind ("Expressive Characters" if you're interested).

            Although SVS Learn covers this in character design (Anna Daviscourt's class is excellent), I wanted to go a bit deeper since I was having a lot of trouble with posing and keeping my characters consistent and recognisable (especially in a turnaround or when they displayed really diverse emotions).

            My main takeaway was that it's all about SHAPE. Even the facial expressions. Pretend the eye/eyebrow is a superhero mask and draw that shape on your character's head to make different expressions and turn it in space. The corners of the mouth affect the shape of the nose and eyes when they're pushed up or turned down (lightbulb moment - the tip of the nose stretches or gets pinched depending on the facial shape! This makes for much more dynamic and convincing expressions).

            The body is made up of bean shapes, cylinders and a sphere for the head. Haha, I know this is obvious information and we all "know" this as illustrators, but it was AMAZINGLY helpful to see Wouter explain how he keeps his designs consistent and easy to manipulate in various poses. Also, how he uses gesture, clothing, weight, acting - everything to convey expressive, interesting and dynamic characters, he truly is a master at his craft!!

            I absolutely adore your characters, but I agree with Eliana that some of your images appear flat or warped because you may not have used a reference to help you gauge where the body parts are meant to be lined up. I think if you really tightened up on your poses and expressions, plus paid attention to the gutter on double spreads you'd be an absolute FORCE to be reckoned with!! Your colouring, rendering, background design and all of that good stuff is impeccable. Like, absolutely top-notch, I'm in awe, haha ^_^

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              A Former User @Eliana Bastidas last edited by

              @Eliana-Bastidas Thanks a lot for doing the drawovers and the critique! I do get where you are coming at, though for the little girl (Shan Shan) the lack of a neck and and more "noodly" limbs is part of the stylization. I understand it may seem odd or not convincing to some though (kinda like chibi anime-style characters). I will definitely keep the issues you pointed out in posing/perspective, in mind, thank you! 😃

              (sorry for acknowledging your response super late, I've kinda dropped out of the forum for over a week, had lots of stuff occupying me of late ><)

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                A Former User @Meekipink last edited by

                @Meekipink Wow thanks so much! You are too kind! 😹 And thank you for sharing about Wouter Tulp and all those tips, I've taken the Anna Daviscourt class but I hadn't heard of Tulp before. I will definitely want to check his classes out (but still have to work on my SVS courses first XD)

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                  A Former User last edited by

                  Book cover design of what I plan as the first book of the "Growing Up with Shan Shan series", in Chinese and English.

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                  • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                    Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @Guest last edited by

                    @JQ this is beautiful!!! i love the color and how dynamic it is.

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                      A Former User @Nyrryl Cadiz last edited by

                      @Nyrryl-Cadiz thank you 🙂 I'm glad the motion comes through.

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                        A Former User last edited by

                        Completed 2-page spread from "Shan Shan and Ms. Water Monitor" I did as part of my dummy sample.

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