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    • Johanna Kim
      Johanna Kim SVS OG @Jason Bowen last edited by

      @jason-bowen Thanks, Jason. Yes, I totally agree, the stabilizers will definitely have to be better defined. It's not just you:)

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      • Gary Wilkinson
        Gary Wilkinson last edited by

        I think that your first sketch has better composition than the 2nd and I think that @Kevin-Longueil has made some awesome points about how to move it forward. If it's a 2 page spread then I would avoid having anything end in he middle of the page. I also think that you should lower your perspective a bit to emphasis the height of the bike and I think you could probably get a really nice flow to the composition that will guide the eye and make the text fit in really nicely.

        Hope you don't mind me doing a quick sketch of what I would try to go for.

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        • Johanna Kim
          Johanna Kim SVS OG @Gary Wilkinson last edited by

          @gary-wilkinson Thanks for your excellent feedback and very strong sketch. I agree with everything you say. I guess I was hoping to maximize all my characters' faces and keep the background details to a minimum, which is why I thought to enlarge everything, but I see now that I have to revisit my thumbnail. These critiques are so incredibly helpful!

          http://www.johannakim.com
          http://instagram.com/johannahkim/

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          • Johanna Kim
            Johanna Kim SVS OG last edited by

            Okay, I think my thumbnail is better now. @Gary-Wilkinson , this version is heavily influenced by your quick sketch. I hope that's okay with you.

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            • Gary Wilkinson
              Gary Wilkinson @Johanna Kim last edited by

              @johanna-kim Looking awesome Johanna! It's no problem with me that why I critique (mine probably wouldn't have work as well without seeing Kevin's paint over anyhow). You know I didn't notice the octopus in the first sketch even though I read it in the description 😛 I know it's more like an imaginary friend character for the main character, but it would be cool if the dogs had a little interaction with it. Kind of how dogs react to ghosts. Just an idea 😛

              www.garywilkinsonart.com
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              • Johanna Kim
                Johanna Kim SVS OG @Gary Wilkinson last edited by

                @gary-wilkinson Oh, thanks so much! And thanks for that suggestion about the dogs. I was looking for more ways to have the characters interact and as soon as you mentioned your idea, a potential visual solution popped into my head. I'm learning a lot from your critiques, by the way.

                http://www.johannakim.com
                http://instagram.com/johannahkim/

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                • Gary Wilkinson
                  Gary Wilkinson @Johanna Kim last edited by

                  @johanna-kim Thanks, I appreciate it! I find that giving critiques is a useful challenge that helps me learn more by fixing issues that others have in my own way (rightly or wrongly). Of course most things are subjective and there are so many styles, so I hope those receiving the critiques don't feel forced to change an idea if that's why they were set on. Speaking of which... the path on the left hill has a similar shape to the legs of the octopus and could distract the flow of the composition (it may be fine with color, but just keep it in mind)

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                  • RHirsch
                    RHirsch last edited by

                    Love the way this illo is taking shape. Some great critiques and draw overs, you guys are amazing.

                    www.rhirschillustration.com
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                    • Johanna Kim
                      Johanna Kim SVS OG last edited by

                      Hi All,

                      I think this is almost done, but have a nagging feeling that there's still room for improvement. Would love a fresh pair of eyes to tell me what it is. Meanwhile, I'm going to step away for a few hours and hope that whatever's bothering me will become obvious. Thank in advance for any feedback.

                      Johanna Kim

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                      • KathrynAdebayo
                        KathrynAdebayo @Johanna Kim last edited by

                        @johanna-kim Geeze, this is amazing. The creativity of it all is just so intriguing! Your style overall is so nice too... very easy to look at and enjoy. I also enjoyed your piece from last month's contest.

                        To me, the large front bicycle wheel just looks like it's a bit out of line, as if it's positioned in front of the far-back training wheel, instead of in line with the back center wheel. Covering the front wheel and looking at the relationship between the wagon axle and the back axle of the bike helped me to imagine where the front wheel should go. Uncovering it again revealed that it's too far back (or up - whichever way you want to think about it).

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                        • Johanna Kim
                          Johanna Kim SVS OG @KathrynAdebayo last edited by

                          @kathrynadebayo Thanks so much for this feedback, and the kudos. I'll definitely take a look at that big wheel as you suggest.

                          http://www.johannakim.com
                          http://instagram.com/johannahkim/

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                          • Gary Wilkinson
                            Gary Wilkinson @Johanna Kim last edited by

                            @johanna-kim Looking great. It's not a big deal, but I don't think you need the sun in the picture. It is a little distracting in it's current position as some of the shadows don't line up with it as they should. Also it might be worth just seeing in photoshop if you could push those colors in the sky to emphasis the sunrise/sunset time of the scene.

                            Those are both non essential things though and it would look great without any changes regardless

                            www.garywilkinsonart.com
                            www.instagram.com/gwillustration/
                            www.twitter.com/GWillustration

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                            • KathrynAdebayo
                              KathrynAdebayo @Johanna Kim last edited by KathrynAdebayo

                              @johanna-kim I admire your openness to suggestions this far into your process. I don't know what your work procedure is like, but I'd be interested in learning about how you might adjust a detail like the wheel's position (or anything else, really) when so much detail is already in place. It sounds difficult! (but I don't know much about using digital tools yet...) Again, amazing piece.

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                              • Johanna Kim
                                Johanna Kim SVS OG @Gary Wilkinson last edited by

                                @gary-wilkinson Thanks for your helpful feedback on the sun, shadows and sky color. I see what you mean and totally agree. Will see what I can do.

                                http://www.johannakim.com
                                http://instagram.com/johannahkim/

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                                • Johanna Kim
                                  Johanna Kim SVS OG @KathrynAdebayo last edited by

                                  @kathrynadebayo I've been starting my work traditionally in watercolor, then finishing them in Photoshop. This process may change if I can achieve the particular look that I'm aiming for. Fixing the wheel is possible since I'm working digitally at this stage, but of course, it's always better to catch these kinds of mistakes in the planning/drawing stage.

                                  As for being open to feedback, I really value anyone that takes the time to help me improve my artwork. Sometimes it's difficult to hear, but I try to set my ego aside in order to make the best possible illustration.

                                  http://www.johannakim.com
                                  http://instagram.com/johannahkim/

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                                  • evilrobot
                                    evilrobot SVS OG last edited by

                                    This is looking fantastic!

                                    http://www.palacioillustration.com/

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                                    • Laurel Aylesworth
                                      Laurel Aylesworth @Johanna Kim last edited by

                                      @johanna-kim This is beautiful.

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