Critique appreciated - tracks in the snowflake
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@LauraA Oh Laura! I’m so happy to get your feedback! Thank you so much for your very valuable advice. Actually, of all the people who I see regularly on this forum, your work is probably closest to the style of this piece, so I am honored to receive your critique. I usually take each monthly contest as an opportunity to try a new style, so this is a whole new ballgame for me this month.
I really want to understand what you were saying about values of skin tones. I looked up some portraits by Sargent and started to perhaps notice the unity in skin tones that you were mentioning. I put another layer over my characters’ faces and tried some new colors... is it an improvement? I feel happier about it for sure.
I appreciate your comments about the center snowflake. I’m still mystified by how to color it and have yet to look up good reference photos. I did warp it a bit more to help it look less stiff. I hope it turns out looking natural! A challenge for sure! I did look back at my color studies again as a reminder of the effects suggested there.
Thanks again for the help.
@aska & @Zachary-Drenski Hi! Thank you both for the encouragement and the input about the arm. You definitely brought something important to my attention! I tried a new position for the boy’s arm and hand. Any better? Thank you again for taking the time to comment.
@KaraDaniel
Happy to hear you enjoy it so far.
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@KathrynAdebayo I wish I had time to just paint what I am talking about, but I've got some distractions at home. Instead, I'll post this video here that I hope will explain it well enough. I think you could simplify even more! Also, forcing yourself to use a larger (and more definite) brush in the beginning stages helps. That's what they always told us to do in portrait painting classes. It forces you to define the shapes within the larger shape. Again, Sargent is a master of this.
As for the snowflake, I think you could take it even further both with the deepening of the color and with the bending! After all, the light source is coming from behind!
And I understand what you said about style, because I am still trying out a lot of styles and media as well, and at times it makes each piece feel like reinventing the wheel!
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The arm looks much more natural
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@KathrynAdebayo I think this is looking good. All the changes look good. For me the fire looks a little airbrushy. Your other characters have that nice mixed media quilt cut out effect that is super in right now with clean edges and the fire looks more soft and blurred compared to the crisp edges. I think its placement right behind the snowflake causes a little distraction too. Maybe move it left just a little? But take this with a grain of salt. You have a great piece and your digital painting skills far exceed mine.
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@LauraA Hi again, Laura, thanks so much for the link to the video. That was very helpful and I can see how defining large areas with value earlier would help the forms and skin look more natural. Right now my figures are very blendy with less defined values and perhaps values that don’t correspond well with the shapes of the faces and hands. I worked on them a little more, but I feel like I would really need to start over to get the best effect. I’m also not the best at imagining forms and lighting in my head, and with the fire in the background, I don’t have good reference pictures for this image. Maybe better reference images would help too for next time.
If anyone wants to paint over my piece if you understand better what Laura is trying to explain to me, feel free.
@chrisaakins Thanks for the note about the fire. I tried to give it a bit more definition and darken the area behind the snowflake. Any better? It’s still pretty airbrushy, but my hope is that it won’t get too much attention... leave the focus on the other busy elements. Do you think that’s working? Thanks again for your help.
I’m also hoping to experiment with some texture at the end so that the piece looks less airbrushed overall.
More critique is always appreciated from anyone who notices things that look off. I’m still working on the snowflake and don’t know if I like the shimmery effect vs. a normal paper look. I haven’t added any shadows to it yet.
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@KathrynAdebayo This is looking really nice - i do like the new texture on the paper too. I could be wrong on this but i feel like the background does not match the perspective of the foreground - that the background is too high - i feel like the fireplace should actually tilt down and away from us to the right? I put a quick little box around the folded legs of the child to see if it helped me to see and i think it did - our point of view seems much lower for the child than the background - it feel like the point where the floor hits the wall should be just below the child's shoulder - i am not too sure of this but i though i would share it anyways
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@Kevin-Longueil WOW, thank you so much for mentioning this and for taking the time to draw that box. I see now the discrepancy and will have to adjust things. Thanks again. I love how your January piece is turning out.
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Hi! I do think it has gotten a lot better, especially the boy's face! And the sparkly texture on the snowflake is very nice, too.
I think maybe I'm partly describing what @chrisaakins called airbrushiness. Airbrushiness is usually not caused only by the brush used but also by not being sure where the shadow delineations should fall. Like you said, good reference or a model would probably help a lot. I know it's getting late in the month to start over (I have a cold now and am staring at my own piece ineffectively), but it's all a learning process. And I still think the piece has such a nice theme and atmosphere!
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@LauraA Thanks again for your help! I keep tweaking grandma’s face... I suppose it’ll turn out as well as current capacities allow, and there’s always room for more practice later.
Here’s the current stage of things... Thanks to @Kevin-Longueil ‘s suggestions. Do the legs look any more natural?
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@KathrynAdebayo This looks closer for sure ...it may be that the texture of the carpet the child is on is receding to its own horizon line which is throwing it off a bit still to my eye - When I block out the carpet that the boy is on it seem to be working well - The legs look great!
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@Kevin-Longueil ooh, great catch! It’s so helpful to have other eyes see things I haven’t noticed. I think I’ll try to adjust the rug.
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Maybe the fire should be adjusted so that the highest contrast isn’t at the top of the boy’s head?
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More details... anything stand out as off or missing? Thank you for the help I’ve received with this. I’ve learned a lot of new things about Procreate, which was the goal.
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It's fun seeing the details emerge. What a special, cozy piece!
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@KathrynAdebayo this has really come together. It's a sweet and very different take from what the rest of us did. The snowflake is beautiful. Great job!
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@KathrynAdebayo very nice!:-)
