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    • Zachary Drenski
      Zachary Drenski last edited by

      @Daniel-Grissom great sketch! I hope you win the contest. You said you want to put the focal point on the lemur and anteater but I feel like the most natural focal point would be at the cash register. The reason I say that is because there is a comfortable space around that area, especially the kid while the rest of the image is busy. Wherever you put the focal point perhaps add a bit of story or amp up the emotion that contrasts with the rest of the scene. I hope that made sense.

      With color, I find it best to start almost monochromatic and with desaturated tones. You can slowly build on top of that adding more color and saturation as needed. All the color classes here are worth taking. Once again great sketch!

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      • LauraA
        LauraA SVS OG last edited by

        I agree with the others. Do a quick value study and that should organize it a bit. It's a crowd scene, so of course the line work is busy, but you can do a lot to simplify it with light and value. The final will be a lot more coherent.

        My eye goes right to that fantastic fish sitting at the counter! That is close to the cash register, too, so I agree with @Zachary-Drenski.

        Your perspective on the balcony and in the signs is looking slightly wonky, but I'm sure you'll figure it out as your refine.

        For color I might start with a multiply layer over everything in one tone, to unify it, and then try different local colors. But I do think it's really important not to use too many, or to have a lot of saturated colors, in a crowd scene like this. Maybe look at Zootopia stills!

        I love the drawing and all the characters you have here. The more I look, the more I see. Just noticed that the anteater is sipping with his..umm, nose?

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        • Phil Cullen
          Phil Cullen last edited by

          Really nice sketch, nice vibe. It feels busy like a coffee shop should be.

          One thing I would suggest is with the perspective, I would pull your vanishing points even further apart, you will have less of a fish eye lens effect with the balcony. Also be careful of the perspective on the counter vs the balcony.

          Have you seen any of Peter De Seve's work he does a lot of animals, like in coffee shops and what not, he also has a cool approach to colour you may get some ideas.

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          • chrisaakins
            chrisaakins last edited by

            @Daniel-Grissom I would check out the composition 2.0 class and the draw 50 things exercise. You could definitely use light and color to emphasize your focal point. I think making your focal point large and in charge of the middle bottom third might be a better way. Especially with a steaming cup of coffee in its paw.

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            • Daniel Grissom
              Daniel Grissom last edited by

              Excellent feedback from all of you! Really helpful. I’m going through it, processing it, and will play with the composition this week. Thanks!

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              • Daniel Grissom
                Daniel Grissom last edited by

                So I put a lot of work into this. There's a lot I like, but I'm not sure how the colors work. I took a couple of the color courses. Whew, overload! Hopefully I applied some of it well.

                Which "haze" in the background looks best?

                I think the anteater needs more detail along his face, since the lemur and jaguar have so much. And I think I need to put something on the pages of the open books. No idea what. Or how. Any references y'all could recommend for that? Any other critiques?

                Thanks!

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                • Amanda Bancroft
                  Amanda Bancroft @Daniel Grissom last edited by

                  @Daniel-Grissom This is a really neat scene! Love all the animals. In my opinion to answer your question about the best "haze" I think the one at far left looks best, everything seems to pop better than the other two.

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                  • aska
                    aska @Daniel Grissom last edited by

                    @Daniel-Grissom awesome, love it!

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                    • LauraA
                      LauraA SVS OG last edited by

                      @Daniel-Grissom I really like your color schemes! I think the first one is somehow more unifying, though, and it does need unity with all those animals. When you squint at it, the lemur still reads as the central focus. But if you're wanting to simplify it a little more, I think you could still take down the saturation in the background, and darken the leopard's head a bit.

                      As for the book, this is going to take a bit of brainstorming! It's going to have to be a second read, but those are really worth it sometimes (think of all the great inside jokes in Zootopia!). I'd think of some classic novel and then adapt it to leopards, or a work about diversity and adapt it to the animals in the bar. But those are just two quick thoughts. I'm sure there are many things that would work.

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                      • Daniel Grissom
                        Daniel Grissom last edited by

                        Sweet. Yea I think you’re right...I’ll take down the saturation of the haze and stick with the yellow background as it seems to unify it more. I’ll try darkening the Jaguar too. I like the book suggestions! Thanks!

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                        • chrisaakins
                          chrisaakins last edited by chrisaakins

                          @Daniel-Grissom I definitely like the first best. It unifies it nicely with more of an analogous color scheme. I think you could grey the lemur up a little bit to tone down the white. It would still read white, but wouldn't blast it so much. The colors look great. I am loving how they really created a central focus.

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                          • Phil Cullen
                            Phil Cullen last edited by

                            First one would be my fav, nice work it's coming along nicely.

                            To help add depth you could literally add a layer behind the lemur and others in the foreground, on that layer fill with a neutral earth tone colour and drop the opacity so its barely visable, essential knocking back the black and unifying everything in the Background and helping the foreground characters pop just bit more. Nice piece well done.

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                            • chrisaakins
                              chrisaakins @Phil Cullen last edited by

                              @Phil-Cullen Great advice. I wish I could think of these things when I am doing my work.

                              Chris Akins
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                              • Phil Cullen
                                Phil Cullen @chrisaakins last edited by

                                @chrisaakins It's a nice trick to add depth. Further away stuff gets the less contrast there is, so I find digitally it's very handy to knock stuff back into the distance and add depth with layers of low opacity colour, also helps unify the elements in the background.

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                                • Daniel Grissom
                                  Daniel Grissom last edited by

                                  I thought I should post the end result. I was selected as one of the finalists for this local competition, won a cash prize, and got my art put up in the city. (It got complicated when they sent me the final template, but I learned some important lessons along the way.) Thanks very much to all of you for your input!

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                                    A Former User @Daniel Grissom last edited by A Former User

                                    @Daniel-Grissom wow! Thanks for showing us such an interesting application of your work, and fantastic job! Congrats on the win.

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                                    • Kevin Longueil
                                      Kevin Longueil SVS OG @Daniel Grissom last edited by

                                      @Daniel-Grissom That is very cool!!!

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                                      • Coreyartus
                                        Coreyartus Moderator last edited by

                                        Wow. Just WOW. Very very cool!!! I love how it's a wrap-around repeat. So much fun happening here!! Well done!!!

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                                        • K.Flagg
                                          K.Flagg @Daniel Grissom last edited by

                                          @Daniel-Grissom well done! It looks great 😀

                                          K.Flagg

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                                          • Neha Rawat
                                            Neha Rawat last edited by

                                            @Daniel-Grissom This looks super! Congratulations! The template does look very tricky but you did a great job! 😃

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