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    • NelsonYiap
      NelsonYiap last edited by

      Really interesting post. I was only a 1 on the scale which is surprising! Couldn't think of much detail at all 😃

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      • Miriam
        Miriam @TessaW last edited by Miriam

        @TessaW, I am a 5, and rarely a 4. I don't visualize anything regarding a year made up of months. If I think of individual months, I am like @eriberart, and just think of things associated with that month but don't see anything at all.

        @neschof, It's enough for me to think about people seeing clear images in their mind. When I hear people like you seeing patterns, colors, movement, etc. associated with abstract concepts, it is extremely foreign, but fascinating.

        I heard of a man who was bad at math, then got a concussion, and suddenly started seeing elaborate mathematical patterns in everything around him.
        Here's an interview with him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX6ONPQGBfo
        Here's his TED talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDU7lEmiiD8

        Oh, I just realized this post is from a couple months ago. Someone linked to it from the post about the recent podcast: https://forum.svslearn.com/topic/9099/how-we-actually-make-the-art?_=1585475797543

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        • SunnySommerset
          SunnySommerset last edited by SunnySommerset

          I feel like I'm a 1 and a 5 at once. Say Apple, bam there's an apple. red, shiny, one green leaf. But it's kind of dissociated with anything. Any specific details? No..., Can I get close up on it? if I really think about it. Can I turn it? Again, I have to really fix on that. It's kind of there and not there at once. To make it more real, I have to draw it or go find an apple, or get a picture of the right kind of apple. I also have a sense of the apple - it's essence, if that makes sense???? It exists as more than a visual thing in my head. Now that I think about, I also get a sense of the taste of the apple, how it smells, how it feels - but it's just a glimmer. There and gone in a moment.
          It's kind of how my dreams are - kind of in nether state and very susceptible to any other fleeting notion that pops into my adhd brain.

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          • Miriam
            Miriam @eriberart last edited by

            @eriberart said in Can you visualize things in your head?:

            I was wondering what the break down of people here is like. Do creative people tend to visualize better, or not at all like me

            This article says, "Ed Catmull, 74, has the condition aphantasia, in which people cannot visualise mental images at all.

            And in a surprising survey of his former employees [at Pixar], so do some of the world's best animators."

            It also says, "He spoke to colleagues and learned that some animators could form mental images so strong they would open their eyes and the image would still be there, so they could practically trace what they could see."

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            • Miriam
              Miriam @chrisaakins last edited by

              @chrisaakins, I like to read (mostly fiction) and I don't see anything at all in my mind. I think I read slower than average (I have to pause videos to read the whole thing, if they show a note, for example), but I've never thought of reading as a chore per se (it would depend on the content, not the actual process of reading).

              I haven't noticed descriptive text bothering me, except when they repeat a previous description. If the story says, "Her blue eyes sparkled like the ocean." I don't want to hear that phrase again in the book (or even the series—if multiple books—to be honest). I'm always thinking: "Words are your JOB. Use a thesaurus!" But maybe I tend to choose books that don't happen to have very descriptive writing, and I would be bothered more, if there was more description.

              I don't like most poetry. Maybe the fact that I don't "see" their metaphors has something to do with that.

              So what do people who can "see" what they read—see when there's some crazy metaphor?

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              • frankiiij
                frankiiij last edited by

                I dream a lot...I can control my dreams. In fact, I was in a dream the other night and my mother in law was there and she was mad so I decided to go ahead and wake up haha.

                Here is my understanding on visualizing. A photographic memory is not a gifted skill it is a trained one. I heard it on a ted talk.

                There are ways to practice this and other memory techniques.

                A simple one is to sit a dark closet with a flashlight and a picture or list of text. Shine light on the piece until you see it and shut the light off. Keep visualizing it until the mental image is gone and repeat it theI started my 11 year old on this a year ago and he says it helps a lot for his tests.

                On the flip side I learned some other mindsets when drawing.

                Like focusing on shapes and just building as it goes. Like in layers. Peter Han and Kim jung gi are good for this type of art. With enough practice you can build and bend the art to your will. Once you are able to recognize the brief times you can keep building upon that. This is what I am currently doing while I learn more and more about different aspects ... shape Theory, color theory, proportions, perspective, tones and values.

                Anyways that is enough rambling on. Be encouraged and enjoy the process. Have a blessed one!

                Much love and God bless!

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                  jdubz last edited by

                  @dafoota said in Can you visualize things in your head?:

                  A photographic memory is not a gifted skill it is a trained one.

                  It's definitely both.

                  I personally knew someone in high school that had a photographic memory that didn't even know that was a thing until she became aware not everyone can remember everything they saw. So she could look at, not read, a textbook page, and know all the answers to a quiz on that page because she could go back to the memory of the text book page and re-read the answer to the question.

                  That kind of innate ability gap is prevalent everywhere, quite a bit in art because it's so apparent. Some people can learn to be incredible painters that have very little natural aptitude (Marco Bucci does a really interesting talk about his natural inability). Or we could learn to be amazing piano players with years of work while some children naturally are able to pick it up and write their own music within months.

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                  • frankiiij
                    frankiiij last edited by

                    Children are the beauty of the world. They process a genuineness that so many adults get striped of over the coarse of time.

                    Could a person not have been draw to a practice simply because they love to do it regardless of knowing what it is exactly. For your friend who has but didn’t know doesn’t mean they were just gifted with this skill. It could also be a possibility that they were drawn to a practice that builds it up naturally without even intentionally knowing it was a practice.

                    I believe that it is that intuition and natural unconscious practice of said thing.

                    For example I do not listen music and sounds like my cousin does. She has a keen awareness to music notes before she knew what they are. Didn’t mean it was something untaught just means it was a natural attraction to an aspect of life. Constantly practicing before she knew what practicing was.

                    I still do not believe that people are allotted a gift. Or you are just ā€œborn with it.ā€ I have four boys and at every birth I learned that they were totally dependent on me with no abilities, but with endless amount of potential. Watching them grow I recognized glimpses of what guided them to be who they are. Still there is much unknown. I do believe people can have a better understanding of different aspects of life even at a younger age. I just believe that people work at these things during their life especially in their childhood.

                    The brain is the instrument of knowledge, the mind is the use of knowledge and the conscience is the manipulation of the brain to produce mind.

                    No worries at all. Thanks for the reply and food for thought.

                    I’ll give another example. Kim jung gi explained that he was drawing 3D shapes in kindergarten when the other students were learning what shapes are. Many would say that he was gifted with the ability to see in perspective. However, he would tell you it came with practice. Not just our typical idea of practice but also the tasks here and there that enhances our abilities that we do not even know is practice.

                    Anyway much love and have a blessed day!

                    Much love and God bless!

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                    • burvantill
                      burvantill Moderator @Miriam last edited by

                      @Miriam I don’t like poetry either and I think your reason really fits with why. lol

                      When I read I have a clear picture of characters in my head and I get really annoyed if there is a movie made after the book and the characters don’t look anything like what I pictured. Lol.
                      For the same reason I don’t like to see a movie before I’ve read the book because I want my own interpretation of the characters and not the movie star in my head... unless it’s someone hot and then it’s okay. 😜

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                      • frankiiij
                        frankiiij @jdubz last edited by frankiiij

                        @jdubz Children are the beauty of the world. They contain a genuineness that so many adults get striped of over the coarse of time.

                        Could a person not have been draw to a practice simply because they love to do it regardless of knowing what it is exactly? For your friend who has but didn’t know doesn’t mean they were just gifted with this skill. It could also be a possibility that they were drawn to a practice that builds it up naturally without even intentionally knowing it was a practice.

                        I believe that it is that intuition and natural unconscious practice of said thing.

                        For example I do not listen music and sounds like my cousin does. She has a keen awareness to music notes before she knew what they are. Didn’t mean it was something untaught just means it was a natural attraction to an aspect of life. Constantly practicing before she knew what practicing was.

                        I still do not believe that people are allotted a gift. Or you are just ā€œborn with it.ā€ I have four boys and at every birth I learned that they were totally dependent on me with no abilities, but with endless amount of potential. Watching them grow I recognized glimpses of what guided them to be who they are. Still there is much unknown. I do believe people can have a better understanding of different aspects of life even at a younger age. I just believe that people work at these things during their life especially in their childhood.

                        The brain is the instrument of knowledge, the mind is the use of knowledge and the conscience is the manipulation of the brain to produce mind.

                        No worries at all. Thanks for the reply and food for thought.

                        I’ll give another example. Kim jung gi explained that he was drawing 3D shapes in kindergarten when the other students were learning what shapes are. Many would say that he was gifted with the ability to see in perspective. However, he would tell you it came with practice. Not just our typical idea of practice but also the tasks here and there that enhances our abilities that we do not even know is practice.

                        Anyway much love and have a blessed day!

                        Much love and God bless!

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