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    • jsnzart
      jsnzart last edited by

      Also, are you sketching as loosely as you can?

      Try really crazy loose quick sketches.

      Are you trying to go too real?

      If so, that can be difficult.
      One technique I like to use(from my own brain) is, go really cartoony, really simple, and look at it from there.
      Pencil on paper is my one and only. I mean, my basics.
      Go back to basics!
      Going back to basics almost never fails.

      The only other thing is, post it here!
      And allow yourself to be critiqued.

      Embrace failure, and go forward, my friend.

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      • arielg
        arielg @jsnzart last edited by

        @jsnzart hehe. if you'd see what i'm trying to do lol. there are like 5 lines in every attempt. i'm trying to do like line of action that depicts the emotion through the pose. its not about loose its that i dont know well enough anatomy and probably perspective to realize how this is turned, and how the weight is balanced etc.
        not trying to do anything beyond that at this stage. also that's the stage i want it to be.
        no use to post it here if its not the pose i want.

        its a kind of familiar pose. i might find it. thanks for the support. i embrace the failure-it is my compass.

        https://www.deviantart.com/planetmusic/gallery/all

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        • arielg
          arielg @Anna Lindsay last edited by

          @Annabishop
          that's the best i think. because i know what i want in my head. I should probably get those timer camera apps.
          but also its kinda clumsy, because i'm not female. but what's important is the pose/gesture. so yeah. it might work! i hope

          did you ever use this method on your works?

          https://www.deviantart.com/planetmusic/gallery/all

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          • Anna Lindsay
            Anna Lindsay @arielg last edited by

            @arielg I use the timer on my phone's camera app a lot! Nothing fancy.

            Yes, I do this all the time. Even if my final character doesn't end up looking a lot like the reference photo, sometimes the reference is just a good jumping off point. I think it's also a good way to decide on a pose if you're not sure how the character should be positioned. Get into the mindset of the character (e.g. surprised, angry, searching for something, curious etc.) and see it like acting a bit. Yeah it's a bit embarrassing especially if you share a work space, but I just roll with being the weirdo haha.

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            • arielg
              arielg @Neha Rawat last edited by

              @Neha-Rawat
              thank you, yes, its a good idea

              https://www.deviantart.com/planetmusic/gallery/all

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              • Coreyartus
                Coreyartus Moderator last edited by Coreyartus

                @arielg I attended a webinar for my local SCBWI chapter, and an Art Director from Simon and Schuster was the guest presenter. She told us that she used to take pictures of her own facial expressions and poses and send them to the artist in order to capture the exact feeling and essence she wanted from the illustration. And provided visual examples.

                Using reference is a thing. A quite legit thing.

                I've taken to paying for collections of pose reference on ArtStation and various others I've found over time that sell reference packs on Gumroad. Interestingly, there are some useful profiles that focus on pose reference on DeviantArt, but the better ones there often link to their own pay-site collections. Also the rabbit hole that is Pinterest can sometimes proffer interesting resources that lead off-site as well.

                For non-pose reference my standbys are the public domain sites like Pixabay, Pexels and PXHere, but one has to be careful of those--sometimes they're not actually public domain and all kinds of trouble can ensue. They curate similar subject matter in groups and that can sometimes help. I would personally rely upon Google more, but the ability to keep the reference material as reference and not outright copy it is beyond my capacity right now. So using anything on Google scares me, except when I specifically set search parameters for non-copyright results... I'm just not good enough to use reference confidently in the right way yet, so I shy away from the temptation. But that's just me.

                Some other sites that I have found useful in one way or the other:

                https://www.quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
                http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en/
                https://www.anatomynext.com/
                http://www.senshistock.com/sketch/
                https://line-of-action.com/
                http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos3.html
                https://figurosity.com/quick-poses
                http://posemuse.com/
                http://beta.sketchdaily.net/en

                https://vimeo.com/croquiscafe
                https://modelindexdatabase.smugmug.com/browse
                https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
                https://tracingrealbodymodels.org/
                https://www.bodyvisualizer.com/male.html
                https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/game-dev?section=trending&q=pose&page=3

                https://www.human-anatomy-for-artist.com/
                https://www.earthsworld.com/

                https://www.deviantart.com/tasastock/journal/Stocky-Directory-216748618
                https://www.deviantart.com/search?q=human Pose

                These may not help you immediately right now, but perhaps they might be useful in the future.

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                • arielg
                  arielg last edited by

                  great resources! thank you very much, although i haven't found what i need still in there, i am sure to use this in the future.

                  https://www.deviantart.com/planetmusic/gallery/all

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                  • sigross
                    sigross @arielg last edited by

                    @arielg best to set up your own poses. Just like this one I did to get the right angle for a Unicorn painting I was doing.
                    unicorn ref.jpg

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                    • ArtofAleksey
                      ArtofAleksey last edited by

                      I want to order myself a full body mirror for poses. But also cause i look amazing

                      instagram and twitter: @artofaleksey
                      alekseyillustration.com

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                      • davidhohn
                        davidhohn SVS Instructor Pro @Coreyartus last edited by

                        @Coreyartus That earthsworld.com is gold!!

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                        twitter.com/david_hohn

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                        • TessaW
                          TessaW @davidhohn last edited by

                          @davidhohn Holy crap, that site is amazing! 😱

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                          Instagram: www.instagram.com/tessawrathall_art/

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                          • burvantill
                            burvantill Moderator last edited by

                            If all else fails look in the mirror... or take a photo of yourself. I’ve had to do this many times and it works. Even if it’s for a person that looks nothing like me in size or shape. You just need a general idea of how the bones bend and you’re good to go. There are a couple of great courses in svs that deal with poses. Highly recommend. πŸ™‚

                            Lisa Burvant
                            www.lisaburvant.com
                            Instagram & Twitter & SVS: @burvantill

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                            • Coreyartus
                              Coreyartus Moderator last edited by Coreyartus

                              @davidhohn @TessaW That Earthsworld resource actually comes from Brooklyn Walker's Introduction to Gesture Drawing course here on SVSLearn. It's hidden at the very very very bottom of the Additional Resources tab. I agree it's golden. There isn't a single person on there that isn't a walking character!

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                              • burvantill
                                burvantill Moderator last edited by

                                I was conversing with Earthsworld and told him he was gathering a following of art students here. This was his response:
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                                πŸ™‚πŸ‘

                                Lisa Burvant
                                www.lisaburvant.com
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                                • J
                                  jdubz last edited by

                                  One other thing that might be helpful are these types of figures.

                                  Using a desklamp on a hinge and getting some lighting information when you snap a picture has been pretty useful.

                                  Josh White
                                  https://www.instagram.com/joshwhiteillustration/

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                                  • deborah Haagenson
                                    deborah Haagenson last edited by

                                    I don't think this has been said and I haven't checked out the suggested sites, which may be a better solution, but if you search in Google for Poses, instead of trying to look for a unique pose, you may find what you're looking for. That's helped me in the past. Also, it helps to learn if you find a close pose and modify it a little.

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