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    • Nyrryl  Cadiz
      Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @Melanie Ortins last edited by

      @Melanie-Ortins sounds good! If you choose to sign with this agent and it doesn't work out, you can always part ways and find another one.

      Portfolio: nyrrylcadiz.com
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      • Melanie Ortins
        Melanie Ortins @Nyrryl Cadiz last edited by

        @Nyrryl-Cadiz That's what I've been thinking too

        http://www.melanieortins.com/
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        • Jeremy Ross
          Jeremy Ross @Melanie Ortins last edited by

          Hi @Melanie-Ortins, yes, their website is a bit outdated; however, I wouldn’t dismiss them based on that sole reason.

          Personally, I suggest you interview with them and discuss opportunities and potential client work. You might even politely slip in feedback on the website.

          They represent Newberry winner Kwame Alexander and James Dean (Pete the Cat series)!

          This might be an opportunity of a lifetime.

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          • Melanie Ortins
            Melanie Ortins @Jeremy Ross last edited by

            @Jeremy-Ross True! I'm definitely going to follow up with them and find out a bit more.

            It does seem like they mostly represent authors and author/illustrators though, so they might be more specialized in pitching full book ideas, and my writing skills are not quite up to par with my illustrations yet! For now, I'd prefer to just illustrate other people's books haha

            http://www.melanieortins.com/
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            • Jeremy Ross
              Jeremy Ross @Melanie Ortins last edited by

              Sounds good @Melanie-Ortins! Forgot to say congratulations for being contacted! Love your work!

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              • Melanie Ortins
                Melanie Ortins @Jeremy Ross last edited by

                @Jeremy-Ross Thanks!

                http://www.melanieortins.com/
                https://www.instagram.com/melanieortins/

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                • idid
                  idid last edited by

                  Great News!

                  Here's the 2019 data I have when I was doing agent research. Deborah Warren seems to be good in terms of sales. But keep in mind their approaches of working with client is important too.

                  Deborah Warren (East-West Agency)
                  14 deals in this category in the last 12 months | 6 in the last 6 months | 60 overall | 3 six-figure+ deals

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                  • xin li
                    xin li last edited by

                    @melanie first of all, congrats :-).
                    I really see what you mean by their website. I also judged agencies by their website. That said, I went on and signed with an agency which I think their website looks really out-dated. Through my agency research, I noticed a tendency: the us agencies tends to have a more morden website than the UK agencies.

                    I agree with the others and you: since they reached out to you, you might as well follow up the lead, and see how the communication goes. You can always say no at later point, if your gut feeling keeps saying "no". I think it is also a good oppotunity to practice on having dialog with agencies.

                    Web: www.lixin.no
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                    • Melanie Ortins
                      Melanie Ortins @idid last edited by

                      @idid Thanks! Where do you get these numbers from? I had only started doing agent research and I'm not sure how to find this stuff

                      http://www.melanieortins.com/
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                      • Melanie Ortins
                        Melanie Ortins @xin li last edited by

                        @xin-li Thanks! That's interesting because I've actually found the opposite! A lot of the UK agencies seemed a lot bigger too compared to lots of small ones in the US based on what I've seen. And you're right, even if I end up saying no, I could learn from just having the discussions ☺

                        http://www.melanieortins.com/
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                        • idid
                          idid @Melanie Ortins last edited by

                          @Melanie-Ortins Publishers Marketplace.

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                          • Coley
                            Coley last edited by

                            Good luck, Melanie!

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                            • Melanie Ortins
                              Melanie Ortins @Coley last edited by

                              @Coley Thanks!

                              http://www.melanieortins.com/
                              https://www.instagram.com/melanieortins/

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                              • Gary Wilkinson
                                Gary Wilkinson @Melanie Ortins last edited by

                                @Melanie-Ortins not much to add, but if you do sign up with the agency keep up updated in the future as to how it goes if you can. It would be interesting to see the kind do work that comes from it.

                                Also had a quick look at your website and you have some lovely illustrations!

                                www.garywilkinsonart.com
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                                www.twitter.com/GWillustration

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                                • Melanie Ortins
                                  Melanie Ortins @Gary Wilkinson last edited by

                                  @Gary-Wilkinson Thank you! I'll keep this thread updated with what happens now and if I do sign with them, then I might make a follow up post in the future! ☺

                                  http://www.melanieortins.com/
                                  https://www.instagram.com/melanieortins/

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                                  • Emma T.
                                    Emma T. @Melanie Ortins last edited by

                                    @Melanie-Ortins Congrats on getting a feeler, that's great! Just FYI they represent Brian Bowes who is someone I know. He taught a kids lit class I took in the Bay Area, Cali and now he's an instructor at SCAD. Not sure of his publishing creds but he's a real human who might respond to an instagram question.

                                    https://www.instagram.com/studiobowesart/

                                    Good luck!

                                    Emma T.

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                                    • Melanie Ortins
                                      Melanie Ortins @Emma T. last edited by

                                      @Emma-T Thanks for the heads up!

                                      http://www.melanieortins.com/
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                                        Joanne Roberts last edited by

                                        This is a respected agency and I have interacted with several of the represented illustrators as online colleagues. They are successful and have no public complaints—and they are getting work. As I compiled my list of potential agents, immediate visual connection between me and my work was something I looked for, for me personally, but it is not a sign of incompetency. I'll let you in on a secret about the industry: illustrators still don't get the recognition they deserve but we're working to change that. Think about all the cover reveals and book birthdays you've seen on social media without the illustrator's name. (By the way, I often politely ask for this information and each time the poster has apologized for their oversight and posted more carefully the next time.) Take note that for MG and YA, the illustrator's name still appears only in tiny print on the back and on the copyright page, yet they have a huge impact on how well the book sells. (Remember, book making is a team sport. The editors and art directors often get even less recognition than that.) LOL, give non artists a break, they just don't think visually—yet. Here are some things to keep in mind: 1. You can always request that your portfolio link or even a single image be placed within one click of the homepage or some such. Communication is your most important tool with your future agent. Let them know this is important to you and you feel it is important for their entire client list. 2. This is not an art rep, this is a literary agency. If your number one goal in the current stage of your growth is getting illustration contracts and manuscripts are not in your near future, then you may want to look elsewhere. The colleagues I mentioned earlier all had immediate aspirations of writing and illustrating and gained projects quickly on both sides of the manuscript. 3. Note that while ADs sometimes look at agent websites, they more often troll your social media output and respond to requests, to postcards, and to previously published work. They hear from agencies without having to waste their time going to the agent's website. 4. Are their current clients getting the kind of work you want? You'll know by talking to other illustrators and also looking at their goals and career trajectory to see if this is a good fit for you. 5. Are you willing to switch agents if you are unhappy or down the road when your goals change? or are you the kind of person who will stress about switching? It makes a difference when you consider if the website is a deal breaker. Sorry I talk so much (can you tell I over analyze everything?) These are just some of the things I think about as I evaluate potential agent partners. Hope this helps you choose your path with joy and confidence

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                                        • Jeremy Ross
                                          Jeremy Ross @Joanne Roberts last edited by

                                          Hi @Joanne-Roberts, you’re right!

                                          And that’s why I love seeing artists like Dan Santat name same size as the Author.

                                          Hopefully you don’t have to win a Caldecott to have your name on the cover the same size as the authors.

                                          This is great book by the way!

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                                          • Melanie Ortins
                                            Melanie Ortins last edited by

                                            UPDATE: I've been emailing with them and talked to Deborah on the phone yesterday. Seems like it's going to work out!

                                            Just a quick question for anyone who knows contract/tax stuff: At the end of the contract, it asks for my Social Security Number or Federal Tax ID, since the money would be going through the agent in California. However, I'm based in Canada and don't have this info. For any illustrators getting work outside of their own county, do you know if I have to pay US taxes? Canadian taxes? Both? What info do I need to provide for my agent?

                                            I followed up with her but since I'm waiting for a reply, I thought I'd ask in the forum and see if anyone knows.

                                            http://www.melanieortins.com/
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