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    • kayleenartlover
      kayleenartlover @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

      @Geoffrey-Mégardon After reading other people's critiques, I think the reason why the kids seem off is because they don't have facial proportions like children. Hansel looks too old even though he is short.

      In the fairytale, it was based on a time in history where people were starving and the parents would be so desperate they would choose to feed themselves and abandon their children. Kinda grim. That's why you usually want the audience to root for the kids but also make it believable that they would fall for the witch's trap of providing sweets for them.

      I am curious how your adaptation will make the story "a modern tale." Are the kids starving? Are they bratty and need to learn a lesson? Lots of potential but hard to tell from how the kids look of what their personalities are like.

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      • Geoffrey Mégardon
        Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by Geoffrey Mégardon

        That’s a lot of feedback! Thanks you very much for taking the time to give me this feedback, it is very much appreciated!

        @Griffin-McPherson yes I have tried multiple designs for the stepmother. She is meant to be mystical, magical, manipulative and threatening. Her hair breaks her human, seductive silouhette with threatening random spikes, while still making a high contrast frame for her face. So it might not be perfect, but I like it 🙂

        @carlianne that’s funny because I wanted the dad to also look rather normal. Only the stepmother and witch are meant to look unusual.

        In terms of the kids being ugly.
        Concerning Gretel, I have changed a little bit her design now, so she doesn’t have a snotty nose and she has cuter eyes. My initial idea was to give her some Tim Burton-esque eyes (small dots) to make her look a bit creepy, as she is going to kill a witch in cold blood in the story. But I guess I can change her eyes during the story, when she is on the way to snap.

        Portfolio piece 2/15
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        Concerning Hansel, note that I already reviewed his proportion and changed his design when I’ve worked on porfolio piece 1. He was much more ugly initially, with black ring under his eyes from lack of sleep.

        Here is how Hansel looked like before:
        B4783C8D-29A4-426A-A72E-A3CA39F81774.jpeg (note the « new design » is an old one)

        So all in all, in porfolio piece 1 I already brought his eyes closer to his nose (to answer @kayleenartlover and @kirsten-mcg ). What I’ve tried in the following turnaround is to give him rounder cheeks and slightly wider pupils.

        Portfolio piece 3/15
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        Generally speaking, I want the kids to not be over designed, and just serve as vessel for the story. I wanted to make them look poor and not well looked after, but I stepped back a lot from that idea. Only the fabric patches and holes in Hansel clothes remain as a clue.

        @kayleenartlover concerning the « modern tale » bit, I may change that subtitle. The thing is that I use the script given by Jake, Will, and Lee in the CBP course. I did not want to make any changes to the script, and just play with how much the illustration can deviates from the traditional interpretation of the text. For instance, in the script there is nothing told about the stepmother being a magical being that manipulates the dad with some sort of magical mind control. But I add this idea in the visual story telling and I try to hint to that the witch is the stepmother. She is a sort of parasite that zombifies lonely Dads and eat their kids.

        And you are right, Hansel and Gretel is a grim story and so it is hard to sell it as a Children Book to be honest. Maybe a children book for 12+? But anyway 😁 here it just serves as a good opportunity to make portfolio pieces.

        Find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodragem/
        Portfolio: https://www.nodragemillustration.com

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        • carlianne
          carlianne @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

          @Geoffrey-Mégardon I'm so sorry! I didn't mean to stay they were ugly!!! Just not traditionally appealing, which could work fine if in your story you want to be highlighting that it's actually super creepy that these kids straight up murder a witch. It just depends on what your story is and what you're trying to communicate.

          That said i do think these look better but the boy does still look a bit old to me (late teens early 20s). Might be worth showing it around and having people guess the age.

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          • Griffin McPherson
            Griffin McPherson @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

            @Geoffrey-Mégardon the stepmother looks fine, it was the ole woman/witch I was talking about with the silhouette

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            • Geoffrey Mégardon
              Geoffrey Mégardon @carlianne last edited by

              @carlianne that's a good idea, I will ask some friends to guess his age.

              Find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodragem/
              Portfolio: https://www.nodragemillustration.com

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              • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by Nyrryl Cadiz

                @Geoffrey-Mégardon Hi! This is just my opinion so feel free to disregard but I think it's more important to see narrative illustrations than character designs in a CB portfolio. Don't get too caught up in character designs, instead do more narrative illustrations.

                Portfolio: nyrrylcadiz.com
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                YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbJCF1Im8ZO7hpGWTKOJMuA

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                • Maureen*Henry*Artist
                  Maureen*Henry*Artist @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by Maureen*Henry*Artist

                  @Geoffrey-Mégardon I’m going to step up and offer a different opinion than the others. My very first impression when I saw your characters, and I still feel this way even after reading the other comments, is that your characters are unique (from each other, meaning they don’t look like they came from the same mold as each other) and appealing (appealing doesn’t always mean cute) and I feel you nailed the look for a modern approach to the Hansel and Gretel story. I think you did a great job in conveying personality in your original designs just as they are even with the snot under Gretel’s nose . To me, that little detail adds to her character which I think you may have intended. The bunny adds to her innocence and youth, but the pigtails, freckles, and snot add that she could be a little sassy and bratty (and/or entitled) which in todays world, a lot of kids can relate to. Hansel looks to be more of a teen with his hoodie and unlaced high top sneakers. Keep the earphones and you nailed the boy teen with some attitude. I think the old lady witch looks cool and creepy with her large glasses and eyes, kinda like a mix between a Harry Potter and motorcycle grandma character. She is frumpy and low to the ground at kid-level height, all at once trying to relate to them but be devious and creepy. If this is what you intended, then I think you nailed it. But if I’m off, then maybe I gave you some ideas, lol. To me, the current trend of the way “cute” is drawn above is cookie cutter in my opinion. It is nice to see characters that don’t all look the same as each other which in of itself is appealing to me. Different shapes for different characters give off different personalities. Your lines are strong and confident which further adds to the appealing nature of your character designs.

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                  • Geoffrey Mégardon
                    Geoffrey Mégardon @Maureen*Henry*Artist last edited by

                    @Maureen-Henry-Artist Thank you, your interpration is indeed what I wanted to communicate! it feels great that you described them as I see them.

                    This being said @carlianne was right. I showed around Hansel without his family and people's guess is between 13 and 40 years old! Something in the face, they say. He looks like a teenager but his face is that of an aldult. However, when he is showed with the rest of the line-up, they see him as 10-15 years old. Interesting... Not sure what to do though 😕

                    Anyway. Here are the pages, I have worked on. So that the portfolio starts to get some narrative illustrations as suggested by @Nyrryl-Cadiz.

                    Portfolio piece 4/15 (Page 1 and 2)
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                    Portfolio piece 5/15 (Page 3 and 4)
                    master-book_2.jpg

                    I struggled with the color of page 3, and I am not sure yet if I will keep it like that or adjust the green a little.

                    I was going to make a facial expression sheet of Hansel next, but I think I should focus on narrative illustrations now. Maybe something else than Hansel and Gretel. We will see 🙂

                    Find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodragem/
                    Portfolio: https://www.nodragemillustration.com

                    kirsten-mcg ArtMelC Nyrryl  Cadiz 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 7
                    • kirsten-mcg
                      kirsten-mcg @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

                      @Geoffrey-Mégardon I really like your spread of the cabin, dad, and kids on the top. Is the evil step mom controlling dad? I love the visual you've used to show her controlling power. The color on page 3 is tricky. Have you tried lightening up the background behind the step mom a little more, so that she's even more of a silhouette? Right now I feel like she's blending into the doorway a little more than she should.

                      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kirsten.mcgonigal.art/
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                      • ArtMelC
                        ArtMelC @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by ArtMelC

                        @Geoffrey-Mégardon your Hansel doesn't look that old here, maybe because his eyes enlarged significantly so he looks more goofy/younger. I think you can do away with the character turnarounds and just show these pages.

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                        • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                          Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

                          @Geoffrey-Mégardon Hi! I don't have a lot of time to explain this but here is what I think you can work on more with this piece. I think you need the Stepmother to pop out more and I think you should also change the pose of the Dad as he yanks Hansel. Overall, I think everything is looking great. I hope this was helpful

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                          • Geoffrey Mégardon
                            Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

                            Thank you for the feedback! Yes I will definitely make the door frame lighter, and make the stepmother silhouette pop out. I had difficulties to change the mask opacity in the software I’ve used.

                            Find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodragem/
                            Portfolio: https://www.nodragemillustration.com

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                            • Kim Rosenlof
                              Kim Rosenlof @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

                              @Geoffrey-Mégardon Your characters are great. I like the colors and silhouettes. I do agree with @Nyrryl-Cadiz with the changes she made on page 3 and 4. The composition feels better and it is easier to see the stepmother now. I do like the modern twist on the Hansel and Gretel story. Can't wait to see how this progresses.

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                              • Geoffrey Mégardon
                                Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by Geoffrey Mégardon

                                Here is an update of the page 3 where I tried to make the silouhette stand out and get rid of the noise.
                                9610CC60-25F6-4DF5-9B35-67768B6F0FD0.jpeg width=50%

                                I will call it done for now as I spent way too much time on the color of this piece!

                                Meanwhile I started to work on a new piece that is the Candy House scene. It’s 90% complete but I hesitate between going for a pinkish background or a blue background.
                                I like the pink because it makes the trees look like candy clouds, but I like the blue as well because it implicitly hints to a dark turn in the story.

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                                Which one do you prefer?

                                Edit: how do I resize a picture so that it only takes 50% of the available width?

                                Find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodragem/
                                Portfolio: https://www.nodragemillustration.com

                                ajillustrates Chantal Goetheer Griffin McPherson ArtistErin 4 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 5
                                • ajillustrates
                                  ajillustrates @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

                                  @Geoffrey-Mégardon Why not both? You can have a layer that’s the pink overlay, mask it to just show the house/trees/etc, and then you can control how strong the pink is relative to the dark background with the opacity or blending modes.

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                                  • Chantal Goetheer
                                    Chantal Goetheer @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

                                    @Geoffrey-Mégardon I love your candy house! I'm trying to create a candy world but struggle a lot and yours seems so fun, effortless and simply awesome.
                                    Colour wise my first instinct is the darker one but I would also turn it to gray scale to check how the character and house stand out best in terms of contrasting values.

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                                    • Griffin McPherson
                                      Griffin McPherson @Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by

                                      @Geoffrey-Mégardon these look great! The start to a strong portfolio I think

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                                        AnumC last edited by

                                        These look great! I love the illustration of the candy house. Amazing work!

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                                        • Geoffrey Mégardon
                                          Geoffrey Mégardon @Chantal Goetheer last edited by Geoffrey Mégardon

                                          @Chantal-Goetheer it is definitely not effortless haha! But they says it becomes easier and easier with time, right 🙂

                                          I do check the grayscale regularly, I set up my iPad so that 3 click on the power button make the screen in grayscale. Super handy!

                                          Find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodragem/
                                          Portfolio: https://www.nodragemillustration.com

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                                          • Geoffrey Mégardon
                                            Geoffrey Mégardon last edited by Geoffrey Mégardon

                                            Thank you for all your feedback!

                                            As usual, I could not wait to start a new piece, so I let the question of pink or blue for the candy house for later. But it seems that many people like the blue one.

                                            So here is my current piece. After the feedback on Hansel, I wanted to make a kid with a head shape and proportion that is more standard in the industry. I also tried to go toward a more painting style using Aveline Stokart as an inspiration (she speak about her method in 21Draw). It was fun but there is so much to explore!

                                            Without background:
                                            A2808298-17BC-42EB-966A-ED69ACDCF272.jpeg

                                            With a simple background:
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                                            What do you think of the general illustration? Should I have a few illustrations in that style in my portfolio next to my usual line art/comics style which I used for Hansel and Gretel? Do you think the version with the background is good enough? I like the way the light pops up on the version without background, but I also like how the background create a sense of space.

                                            Find me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodragem/
                                            Portfolio: https://www.nodragemillustration.com

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