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    • Chip Valecek
      Chip Valecek SVS Team SVS OG last edited by

      I would try going with a solid color maybe a little more saturated then the color you want to have. Then drop the opacity of the layer so it becomes transparent. From there you can add layers on top to add shadows and highlights. At least that is how I would go about it. And yes of course reference to nail the highlights. Keep in mind that anything you see through the water may become distorted by how the liquid would bend the shapes.


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      • TessaW
        TessaW last edited by

        Here's some reference to show how pulling darks in there will sell the idea of transparency.

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        • Eric Castleman
          Eric Castleman last edited by

          Still very much a WIP. It will probably take me the rest of the week to finish it, but here is what I got so far.

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          Going to add many more bubbles, as well as some darker reflective stuff through the liquid. Also, here is another image of the other objects that I will be adding in, not including his hand nodling the fork/poker

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          So since this post is mainly about reflective/transparent light, I won't post too much about the whole process, but once I get the table in, it will be interesting trying to figure out how the reflection might bounce back onto the table, as well as his glasses. I am really painting in the dark (figuratively) as I go, so it is fun to put this puzzle together.

          I removed all the color from the first image and started over btw.

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          • TessaW
            TessaW last edited by

            Great improvements! It's really shaping up and I have no doubt you'll be able puzzle out your desired results. If you ever want to take a course that deals with reflective and transparent surfaces, I recommend the Fundamentals of Lighting with Sam Nielson, over at Schoolism. You learn about reflections on metallic objects, eyeballs, water, glass and also the transparent aspects of glass and water. It's awesome.

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            • Pamela Fraley
              Pamela Fraley SVS OG last edited by

              This is a great discussion. I'm keeping an eye on this because I've wondered about all this too. Great work, by the way. I'm loving the bubbles in the green liquid.

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              • RHirsch
                RHirsch @Eric Castleman last edited by

                @eric-castleman When you select "New Topic" for your post, you have to choose a category for your topic (art, general discussion) or it will tell you you don't have enough privileges. Same thing happened to me recently.

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                • mattramsey
                  mattramsey last edited by

                  PS (or any thing with layers) it can make the "transparent" liquid process (or smoke, or ghosts, or magic, etc) a LOT easier.

                  With the liquid on one layer, add a layer mask to it (for non-destructive editing--if your program doesn't do layer masks use a low opacity eraser), take a brush with low opacity, and "paint out" sections of the liquid. That way, the layer behind it will show through.

                  This will get you a certain percentage of the way there but then you'll obviously still have to paint in specular highlights, shadows and whatnot. For that a reference is invaluable.

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                  • MissMarck
                    MissMarck last edited by

                    Just for kicks, I did a couple quick studies based on the blue liquid. My style of painting is more loose and "impressionistic" but I thought I'd shared in case anyone finds it helpful 🙂
                    https://youtu.be/BRKc4uBquDI

                    I think the main thing is to make the background/table show through the liquid. With the bubbles, I think you'll really have some awesome looking transparency!

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                    • Eric Castleman
                      Eric Castleman @MissMarck last edited by

                      @missmarck very cool!

                      Btw, I suck at Instagram, and for some reason I can never find people via search. Can you by chance link me to your profile?

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                      • MissMarck
                        MissMarck last edited by

                        Sure!
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                        • Eric Castleman
                          Eric Castleman last edited by

                          Been super busy, but have worked on this image as much as I can. I put in the table, and am working on the burner, trying to make it chrome like, as well as looking around at references for reflections onto tables.

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                          • TessaW
                            TessaW @Eric Castleman last edited by

                            @eric-castleman It's looking great. I love how you've kept the liquid very soft looking inside. It really helps with the mood of the piece. The bubbles really help sell it. Not sure what you have planned in terms of the marshmallow, but I think you could push it so it looks more marshmallow-like. Maybe have the stick pushing through the top of it, shorten the proportion, and have a little toasting action going on.

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                            • Eric Castleman
                              Eric Castleman @TessaW last edited by

                              @tessw yup, we ste on the same wave length. Those are my next few ideas. I have a poker going through the marshmallow in the drawing, but wanted to wait until I had the chrome on the burner correct. Softening up the marshmallow is something I have pondered, but the mid area is the next nightmare I have to tackle, so hopefully I will get those ideas right on when it comes to that part. Thanks for the insight. Very helpful.

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                              • MOO
                                MOO SVS OG last edited by

                                When i can't post an image, it is often because I didn't choose the forum I want to post on. If I click on general and then try posting the image again, it works. Don't know why that is but that is my experience.

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                                • MOO
                                  MOO SVS OG last edited by MOO

                                  Maybe if you can show a hint of the background through the liquid, like the table top lightly behind it? And the table top would be a little askew behind the bottle, right?

                                  Marsha Ottum Owen

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                                  • holleywilliamson
                                    holleywilliamson SVS OG last edited by

                                    I keep looking at the thickness of that beaker, and it seems too thick. Agree on showing a little of what is behind the liquid.

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                                    • Eric Castleman
                                      Eric Castleman last edited by

                                      Been super busy with scbwi stuff, and then my four year old son chipped his front tooth today on the side of the pool (ugh!), so just sitting down to this for the last hour or so. Here is where I am at with the body, and onto color, which will obviously require reflective color. I rounded out the marshmallow, per everyones suggestions, and finished the poker.

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                                      • Eric Castleman
                                        Eric Castleman last edited by

                                        Done for the night. Any suggestions about lighting and glow to add to objects would be appreciated. Still have yet to relaly finish the foreground. Also, I'm going back and forth on him having hair or not.

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                                        • Eric Castleman
                                          Eric Castleman last edited by

                                          Update. Starting to mess with transparent liquid a bit more. Struggling with how images would bend in round glass. Also, does the marshmallow still read as a marshmallow?

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                                          • Eric Castleman
                                            Eric Castleman last edited by

                                            Shortened the marshmallow. Why I had it looking like I did, I don't know.

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