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    • Eric Castleman
      Eric Castleman last edited by

      Ok, I think I figured out what I am forgetting. There is basically no overlapping. When I don’t consider this, I think what tends to happen is that the indivual items in a piece have no relationship, or feel as though they are propped a certain way for the viewer. All of my succesful work has had succesful overlapping...I now realize that I totally ignored that aspect in this design.

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      • Jon Anderson
        Jon Anderson SVS OG @Eric Castleman last edited by

        @eric-castleman I don't think I'm far enough along in the experience category to offer meaningful suggestions for where you are. Personally, I'm refocusing my efforts toward more simplified work with the intention to get good at that then broaden my scope to more complexity as I go. I think your work is well beyond that stage. Maybe a small adjustment in how much you're trying to do could be the trick? Hopefully the experienced folk can encourage you in the right direction.

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        • TessaW
          TessaW last edited by

          Oh, glad you could identify what the problem is. Maybe as you discover these things you tend to miss, put it on a list, so you can refer back that list if you get into a weird place again.

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          • Eric Castleman
            Eric Castleman @TessaW last edited by

            @tessaw yes, I just wrote down my steps on my thumbnail master copy lol.

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            • Eric Castleman
              Eric Castleman last edited by

              Alrighty, so this is my fix. I decided to add in another guard. I think this helps sell the idea of the robber is hiding, as well as fixes the issue of very little overlapping going on. I am working in the value atm, but hopefully it comes out alright.

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              • Eric Castleman
                Eric Castleman last edited by

                still WIP

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                • Eric Castleman
                  Eric Castleman last edited by

                  might be hitting this with a bit too much back light idk

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                  • chrisaakins
                    chrisaakins last edited by

                    I definitely think the fixes the composition problems. The sightline of the hiding thief really moves your eye around the page now. I am not sure what is going on with the hand of the middle guy. What is he holding?

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                    • Chip Valecek
                      Chip Valecek SVS Team SVS OG @Eric Castleman last edited by

                      @eric-castleman I like the new addition. Not sure where that back light would be coming from on him, maybe turn the flashlight on the back ground. Also his facial expression almost seems that he is also trying to get away from the other guard. And (clears throat) add a guard hat on him 🙂


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                      • Judy Elizabeth Wilson
                        Judy Elizabeth Wilson SVS OG last edited by

                        Well done to finish after the deadline. I'm doing the same!

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                        • Eric Castleman
                          Eric Castleman @Chip Valecek last edited by

                          @chip-valecek haha. Ya know, I was thinking that a bald night guard would drive you crazy.

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                          • TessaW
                            TessaW last edited by TessaW

                            Lol @Chip-Valecek I think he's right if you want them to look like security guards. Right now they look like mob men or some other kind of criminals.

                            Suggestion: A large round flash light glare from the middle guy's flashlight, washing him out a bit? It will a) soften contrast on him and b) create a cool lighting effect, almost like we're in the scene.

                            This is turning out pretty cool! I like your addition of baldy, it feels almost cinematic.

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                            • stringfellowart
                              stringfellowart SVS OG last edited by

                              I'm wondering, how much sketchbook time are you getting? And specifically drawing from life? I find that I see the biggest jumps improvement in my composition etc. after I spend a good period of time drawing all the things around me. Taking my sketchbook with me everywhere, drawing restaurants drawing buildings drawing people in bars. Use a pen, keep it fast, but the act of paying attention to the big elements, the important things, perspective etc. will start bleeding into your work

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                              • Eric Castleman
                                Eric Castleman @stringfellowart last edited by Eric Castleman

                                @stringfellowart is my perspective off? I tend to always used warped perspective. Idk.

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                                • Eric Castleman
                                  Eric Castleman last edited by

                                  still gotta add the tie. Anywho, I like the lighting idea, and will probably bring that out more before I am done with this one.

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