Discovering our style - Who's in?

[Chip Valecek]

@Braden-Hallett mine are from the artists that I love.

[Meta]

@neschof Absolutely welcome!

@Braden-Hallett For me the task was only picking from what I already collected. Since I knew I'd go back to drawing (half a year ago maybe?) I was liking and following stuff/people on instagram, saving some other non-instagram-related images on my computer. If you start from scratch, this is definitely time consuming. It still was for me, but I had that base ... Have you got nothing and no one from arts that does what you want to do? If there would be one at least you could go to instagram or pinterest and look up the things that are related to that art. Though it can be very tireing to click around ...

@Elena-Marengoni I also see a lot of desaturated and brownish colors. Your backgroundas are very basic and there is few rendering. At least a part of the images use geometrical shapes. They use abstaraction in many cases - mostly for plant matters! Almost everything has an air of fairytale. There's a high variety of different compositions. Is there any that attracts you in particular?

An interesting thing that I notice is, that within your dream portfolios, I am attracted most to those images that fulfill the criteria we've analyzed about mine. Do you guys notice the same?

[Elena Marengoni]

@Meta yep I see all these things as well, except maybe for simple backgrounds... I mean yes, they aren't super complex either, but I like that they have details to look at and that the images are quite busy overall. As for compositions, I do like variety! I like when an artist is capable of changing the point of view to support the narrative in the best possible way and get the message across. I would love to achieve that in my own portfolio!

[Elena Marengoni]

@Braden-Hallett I went to a big bookstore in Milan this week, one that has a huge section dedicated to children's books. I've spent a couple hours looking at picture books and book covers, taking photos and noting down names of illustrators that I found visually interesting. I am building a simple Excel database of those names and looking at their websites. Plus I looked at the work of illustrators whose work I was already familiar with. I find Pinterest full of inspirations, but also tiring and not really the best if you want to discover the name of the artist and be able to look at their overall portfolio.

[Meta]

@Elena-Marengoni & all: Book shops (good ones) are always good to find new thrilling artists. I almost forgot that (we're living in rural Portugal with ne next "big" city 3/4 of an hour away. Until I found a great children's book shop in that city. But somehow, after revisiting these bookshelves in mind, I get the feeling that the style I am aiming for isn't on the market ... And I won't go into concept design which is highly competitive. Has anyone an idea where I might snuggly fit? Any branch or field of illustration?

[NicolaSchofield]

Ok, after some brutal culling here is my dream portfolio!

I'm feeling really happy and excited about this now as it feels like a coherent set. I'm still struggling to identify the specifics though. Here's what I've got so far:

• generally quite flat, even when it's a scene with depth - like it could have been created with cut out paper shapes
• lots of pattern - clothes, rugs, tiles, wood. patterns next to patterns
• lots of line but not always as outline - it seems to weave in & out of outline and texture
• texture! provided by watercolour + linework mainly I think.
• generally missing light sources and shadows (this was a big shock to realise - I thought I loved shadows!)
• they're all quite high key (?) (I'm starting to struggle now)
• colour....? I'd love some help with this as I can see they all have something in common I just don't know what!

I'd also love to know anything else you notice or see - this is all so fascinating!

Now my attempts to look at other's portfolios. Sorry if it's all very obvious stuff you already know:

@Elena-Marengoni I see blocks of bold bright colour, often paired with brown. All shapes are rounded. I think you said "soft shapes" and this is very clear across all the images - there are no sharp edges and even square objects somehow manage to look like they would be squashy to sit on.

@Meta The gradations through similar colours comes across very strongly in lots of the images (particularly shades of blue and green). They also seem to be generally quite high contrast with dark backgrounds. The focal point of the images is often provided by a strong light source contrasting with this darkness. I'm getting an animation vibe from many of the images.

@jakecrowe lots of detail through fine linework. Limited palettes within single images - usually only two main colours and these are applied in flat shapes and flat backgrounds. Because I realised that my images are devoid of shadows I saw that yours generally describe and define the 3D forms via shadows.

[Meta]

My second Portfolio. Maybe surprising? It's quite different to the first one. :face_with_stuck-out_tongue: I made it up based on the need to start with something easily achievable, which is fun at the same time. I'm thinking more of editorial, non-fiction illustration. Still not sure where to fit it best ...
Ignore the subject matters in any case. My choices weren't neccessarily what blows me completely off, but the question: What would I like to I try with my "style"/What would be a fun and fast way to draw on a daily base?

Sorry for not putting all the artists names. This was a faster process and you don't always get the artist's name, say, from pinterest. It's very confusing.
Briony May Smith
Catherine Pape
Cyril Pedrosa
???
Mabel Ye
???
Katja Gehrmann
Voctoria Antolini
Natalie Andrewson
Kim Jung Gi US
Mikkel Sommer
???
Natalie Andrewson
Tom Boothe
Natalie Andrewson
3x Núria Tamarit
Tim Möller-Kaya

This is what I found: fast lines, vivid colors, colors not always in place, and made up for the design ignoring natural colors, leaving parts of the image blank. Flat blocked-in colors. Few colors per image, sometimes handled like in multilayered printing techniques (few colors printed above each others - don't know how to describe this in english ). Partly brightly colored lines. I cannot name a certain color contrast here ... any ideas? Besides some monochromatic or analogue colors. Forgot so much about colors in all these years!
Few detailed or non existant background, higher level of abstraction then in Portfolio #1, expressionistic, much movement ...

Does this make any sense to you? I can imagine to grab some of the elements and go experimenting within the visual language I am capable of.

@neschof Awesome! I see a lot of things there, but am too tired for writing them down right now I'll post it later.

[NicolaSchofield]

@Meta It is also late here and I'm off to bed but a first thought on your new portfolio. I'd class these as "drawings", in contrast with your previous portfolio which was definitely full of "paintings". Except the image of the boy in the top right of the new set. This seems more painting than drawing to me and doesn't sit comfortably in this new set, even though it is a sketchy sort of painting I could definitely be wrong, viewing with tired eyes, I'll have a closer look tomorrow.

I also realised I didn't give any of the artists names in my portfolio. I'll add them tomorrow too.

[Zachary Drenski]

@Braden-Hallett - Libraries, caldecott winner lists online, other lists online, and looking at everyone's dream portfolio here. I don't yet know what will make the cut for my top 20 pieces, but I've been taking about 20 minutes each day to research new artists.

@Chip-Valecek I think if the pieces look different stylistically it's okay because our job is to steal little pieces from the artists we like and allow those combinations to form into our own unique style. That's my take at least. I am trying to stick to published childrens book illustrators at the moment though, but that's the only self imposed constraint.

[Zachary Drenski]

@neschof Can you please include a lists of the artists? I see some stuff in there calling me :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes: I will look it over later and do my best to add to what you're seeing.

[xin li]

@Braden-Hallett I did this excise earlier this years. I had a lot of artists name in mind. I used pinterests search to find images of the artists I have in mind, and see similar images suggested by Pinterests.
My biggest challenge was to narrow down to 20 images. I think I would have given up doing that if I did not have a deadline (I did the excise in one of Lee's interactive class). But I am so glad I did that, and I am planning doing this as a yearly ritual.

[NicolaSchofield]

@neschof Here are the artists for my images (sorry I forgot to include them before). The stars are how much I like the artist's work as a whole. So 5 stars means I love everything they do, one star means I was attracted to this specific image but not so much the artist's general style.

There is one image that I don't know the artist for - I tried reverse image searches etc. and found nothing! It looks like a children's book spread so if anyone recognises it please let me know - I would love to see the whole book!

Here are some links to these artists for interested people:
http://clarecaulfield.co.uk/
http://www.mounifeddag.com/
https://www.artistpartners.com/portfolios/david-roberts/
http://www.wolphins.com/illustrators/victoria-semykina
http://www.jennylucander.com/books

[Meta]

@xin-li & everyone, For both portfolios I started wit 76 and 65 pieces of work. For each, I copied all of the images to a new folder for not loosing any. Then I started deleting what looked paler in comparison to the others.´, till I had only 20 left. This took me less then half an hour. I usually find it easier to delete what's redundant, instead of to pick what's good. Maybe this helps someone.

[NicolaSchofield]

@Meta exactly what I did - It means you can be more flexible when adding images - anything that catches your eye. Then repeatedly filter through them all deleting any that don't shine when sitting beside all the others. At the end I also tried to only include one image per artist. This was hard! but I think worthwhile to not have too much an overwhelming influence from one or two people.

[xin li]

@Meta thank you for sharing your process, very interesting. I used a similar approach as you did, but the whole process took me about a week (I had to take breaks in between). I did not think the image collections I gathered were perfect that I could not get rid of any. It is more like many images has something speaking to me, but also have things that I am not very interested in. It was hard for me to compare them, such as: I really like the theme of this image, but I am not into a very bright color scheme. Or I love the composition of that image, but I am not into the horror theme. So the whole process for me was about studying my art heros, but also about a conversation with myself to figure out what is really important for me.

[Meta]

@xin-li So why not opening several folders, naming them "composition", "light", "theme", "color" and whatever box you want, and sort your images like that? This can be a parallel process to your dream portfolio, and you don't loose track of the things you want. Maybe it's easier to choose the pictures then? Just picking the best things from each folder ... Just an idea.
Ah, and it also took me many hours to get together all the images. I was just refering the time of sorting them out which was quick.

[burvantill]

@Chip-Valecek i wonder if this may help. Last Spring I got a portfolio review from Laurent Linn and in my portfolio I had a lot of cartoony characters that I’ve been drawing my whole life mixed in with my children’s art. Now to me they’re all children’s art but to him the two styles were so different that he said why don’t you just leave out the cartoony stuff for now and focus on the other stuff and it really helped me focus more. It was a bummer because I like the cartoons but he did say, “for now” I do still have them on my website in a separate page but in my gallery and my physical portfolio I left them out.

[burvantill]

@Braden-Hallett i had a huge board that I’ve been doing for a while of art that I just liked. I started there and chose the images that I felt were the direction that I want to take my art. Like @xin-li said it was tough to whittle it down to 20. I did it in the spring this year and I’ve been adding and subtracting images as I grow, trying really nail down what I want to do. I feel like this will be a lifelong project. Lol. I like the organization and ease of Pinterest to change it as I go. If I see something out in the world I try and find it online and then add it in to the dream board.

[Zachary Drenski]

@neschof Thank you!

[braden H]

Thanks everyone for the info

I think I may make a comics dream portfolio and a kid's book dream portfolio. And also stop overthinking it. I'm really overthinking it.