Dec WIP
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Ehhh... I don't like how this is working so I think I'm actually going try the other method. I'm just feeling like laying down colors over the value painting is fighting me to get what I want. It's looking muddy to me and I'm not getting it to come out quite right.
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@jdubz It is hard to colorize straight from values!
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@JoannaH Yeah... I'm still pretty new to color in general, so I'm looking at all these different types of techniques and I'm seeing a lot of people do tutorials where they build values then layer in colors.
But for me it just doesn't feel right. The more I try doing it that way, the more I feel trapped or limited by it.
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Ok here is the totally repainted one. This time I painted right over all the line work and then built the forms organically just pushing/pulling on the same layer. I still need to work on making her a ghost and work on some of the lighting.
I think I want to expand the water a bit like in the one above. It feels like it needs that extra element where she doesn't create a reflection to reinforce that she's actually a ghost.
Do the shapes read well? I'm trying to take the comments from the live critique yesterday to heart where Will had said I need to work on finishing strokes where details should be and take away strokes where detail shouldn't be.
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Finished other lights I was thinking about putting in.
My main concern is whether or not she reads as a ghost or not. Does it come off that way?
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@jdubz I didn't get that she was a ghost. Did you try making her transparent? I think of ghosts as being sorta see through.
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@carlianne Ok good to know thanks! I've got to see how I can make this work
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@carlianne Does making the edges of her transparent come across as ghostly??
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Hmmm.... It's better, but I still don't think I would get it on the first read. When I think of transparent objects like a water glass, I think they look more transparent in the middle, and more opaque on the edges, maybe you could try that?
I really like the concept by the way.
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@carlianne I'm not sure I like the one with it transparent in the middle... it just feels kind of busy. I tried to quickly redraw her in "full ghost mode". How does that feel comparatively?
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@jdubz I think full ghost mode works much better
You could even make her a tad more transparent and give her a glowy halo to really sell it -
Oh yeah! I totally agree with Branden. Full ghost mode totally reads, more glow/transparency could be fun - but your call.
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"full ghost mode" for the win.
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Full ghost mode yes! Other option is to lighten her layer ( if she's on a separate layer) and have some background showing through? Really sweet! I love your style!
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@jdubz I saw you said you were coloring over the value layer. Some people seem to be good at that but it's not my preference.
Here's how I like to keep my values in check while coloring
- Create a new layer on top of all other layers.
- Fill that layer completely with white.
- Change that layer's blend mode to 'color'
You can turn that layer on and off to see your painting in grayscale. I don't know if you already know that hack but learning that made my life so much better so I thought I'd throw it out there.
Awesome painting by the way! I love the concept.
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Thanks all - really sounds like that's the way to go. Really appreciate the feedback.
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@Zachary-Drenski Ahhh interesting I see what you mean. What I ended up doing is create a hue/saturation adjustment layer at the top and set it to grayscale and then I just turn it off and on. It sounds like it's doing the exact same thing.
I think I'm going to try some more of painting on the grayscale. It seems like the final result has a specific look I'd like to try and master, but it's really counterintuitive to how I want to work hah.
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Cleaned up the cat and the girl and then added several more layers of glows to her, and then made her transparent in the middle to point @carlianne made which was it should be transparent in the middle. I think that worked a lot better!
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@jdubz this reads clearly to me now! Great job!
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Hey everyone, can I ask a favor?
In the last few months I've been working on my iPad in a way that's just totally different than my desktop tablet. The drawing tools just end up being more rough and stylized versus more painterly which I've been doing the kind of work above. So instead of trying to make them match, I've tried to embrace the difference and just make that totally different style of art.
Over Christmas break I had been doing a lot of different pieces and one of them I thought I might do this same prompt with the same subject matter/characters but see what the results would be. What I'm trying to do is get better at communicating the scene and what's going on.
So I was hoping to get some feedback on how I'm communicating the subject matter. Does this more clearly communicate what's going on? Or did the first one do a better job of that?
