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    'Choosing beggars' and the best way to say 'no'

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    • Nyrryl  Cadiz
      Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @braden H last edited by

      @Braden-Hallett lol! You have got to share the whole message. My usual turnoff is when they state their budget. It usually goes something like, β€œWill you illustrate my book for 100 bucks?” Lol πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I live in the Philippines but I can’t even live for a month on that budget.

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      • xin li
        xin li last edited by

        @Braden-Hallett I think I would go with @carlianne's advice. I can not imagine they can keep bugg you if you tell them you do not have time for their whatever project. If they still trying, then just ignore them.

        Web: www.lixin.no
        IG: www.instagram.com/lixin.illustration/

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        • Jeremy Ross
          Jeremy Ross last edited by

          Hi @Braden-Hallett, your work demands top dollar!

          As a suggestion, maybe you can say that you would love to provide a piece for free, but you are booked solid on paid work.

          Either way, treat it as a compliment that someone is willing to beg for your art! Kudos brotha!

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          • Paint Doodles
            Paint Doodles @burvantill last edited by

            @burvantill I agree with this being the best way. You still deliver a free drawing 🀣

            https://www.instagram.com/artofaslinnsmith

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            • Eli
              Eli @burvantill last edited by

              @burvantill Haha YES!! "Ok, here's what's available at that price point."

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              • braden H
                braden H last edited by

                lol thanks everyone!

                What I'm hearing is mostly 'don't be so polite' πŸ™‚

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                • artwithashley
                  artwithashley last edited by

                  @burvantill I just laughed out loud at this! Thank you for making my day.
                  And... @Braden-Hallett your work is brilliant and you deserve to be paid for it!

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                  • Eli
                    Eli last edited by

                    In seriousness, I find that "I'm sorry, that's just not possible" and leave it at that closes the door pretty well. It isn't rude, but it doesn't leave any room for argument. If they come back after that, they are just wasting your time. Don't respond further to their nonsense. People like that aren't worth your time. They will never value your talents.

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                    • burvantill
                      burvantill Moderator @braden H last edited by

                      @Braden-Hallett said in 'Choosing beggars' and the best way to say 'no':

                      What I'm hearing is mostly 'don't be so polite'

                      It's probably difficult for you, being Canadian and all. 😜😜😜

                      Lisa Burvant
                      www.lisaburvant.com
                      Instagram & Twitter & SVS: @burvantill

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                      • chrisaakins
                        chrisaakins @burvantill last edited by chrisaakins

                        @burvantill That pic is hilarious. With my luck he would still make a mint off of it and not give me any credit.
                        Also rudeness is against @Braden-Hallett 's religion.

                        Chris Akins
                        www.chrisakinsart.com
                        www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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                        • braden H
                          braden H @burvantill last edited by

                          @burvantill said in 'Choosing beggars' and the best way to say 'no':

                          It's probably difficult for you, being Canadian and all.

                          IT'S SO HARD πŸ• (I was going for the smiley face, but you know what, I'm gonna leave the dog. )

                          It's more that you never if if the bridge you just burned is gonna be one you need to cross in the future, so it's better to burn no bridges if possible πŸ™‚

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                          • braden H
                            braden H @chrisaakins last edited by

                            @chrisaakins said in 'Choosing beggars' and the best way to say 'no':

                            Also rudeness is against @Braden-Hallett 's religion.

                            lol, I say! LOL! πŸ˜ƒ

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                            • burvantill
                              burvantill Moderator @braden H last edited by burvantill

                              @Braden-Hallett I hear you. I make light of it, but if anyone I didn’t know personally asked for something free I would probably have the same dilemma as you. My extended family and friends have finally learned that I’m worth something at least and have stopped asking for free stuff. They pay me now, I give them huge discounts tho,
                              [edit: sorry about the language. I forget sometimes that people here don’t really know me and visa versa and may be offended. I shall try to keep my shenanigans PG from now on. I just thought it was funny because I’m a Guardians fan😊😬]

                              Lisa Burvant
                              www.lisaburvant.com
                              Instagram & Twitter & SVS: @burvantill

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                              • Adriana Bergstrom
                                Adriana Bergstrom @braden H last edited by

                                @Braden-Hallett I might respond with:

                                Thank you for the opportunity to work on your content. Please understand that the time I spend on working for a free project actually costs me money in the form of time that I could have used to work on a paid project. Those paid projects are the ones that sustain and support my livelihood.

                                www.adrianabergstrom.com
                                IG/Twi/Pin/etc @adriprints

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                                • kylebeaudette
                                  kylebeaudette last edited by

                                  I had someone contact me for free work recently. It was just 'something small, no big deal for someone like me to draw..'
                                  I said I was swamped and couldn't take on new projects at this time. I told them to certainly ask me again in three months.
                                  They won't.

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                                  • Phil Cullen
                                    Phil Cullen last edited by

                                    That sucks and unfortunately is very common. I've had that a good few times ranging from, I just need a simple sketch or it doesn't have to be great! I had someone ask me to 'rough out' their graphic novel as a non-paid trial to see if they wanted to hire me to do the graphic novel, I ran so fast!

                                    My polite response would be I do this for a living and don't have capacity to take on free work at the moment as my paid contracts are my priority.

                                    My non polite answer is a lot shorter and aggressive lol but I very rarely go there tho, I try to stay as polite as possible.

                                    My main advice is don't get sucked in to a big email exhange, it can suck up so much valuable time. So when you get a sniff of it being dodgy just bail. Some big warning signs I've found are when they avoid discussing money at the start and just jump into project specifics and it's very close to their heart. I always throw out the question 'and have you a budget and timeframe in mind?' in the very first email. Saves a lot of time.

                                    Hope that helps.

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                                    • Jeremy Ross
                                      Jeremy Ross @braden H last edited by

                                      This is the way @Braden-Hallett.

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                                      • danielerossi
                                        danielerossi last edited by

                                        This reminds me of a Picasso story. A woman asked him to draw a portrait of her. He did with one simply line. She asked why he charged so much when all he did was draw a line, he replied, β€œMadam, it took me all my life”

                                        https://www.instagram.com/heyfrankybanky

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                                        • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                                          Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @danielerossi last edited by Nyrryl Cadiz

                                          @danielerossi lol! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ i’m with the lady though. If I paid you for a portrait, I better see a portrait and not some single line bs

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