Inktober Book Plagerism Accusations

jsnzart · 5 Sept 2020, 16:33

@NessIllustration Thanks.
What I mean is;
Instead of negativity, bring the positive forward.

Regards to being creative, I mean;
Use our creative minds to discuss a wonderful ending of this.

Make it happen!

Talk about a wonderful ending.
Not just for Jake.

How can a wonderful ending affect the whole community?

Nothing is impossible!
It begins with thoughts. And talking about it gives it life.
The opposite is talking about how bad it is.

So, c’mon, create a wonderful ending.

Nyrryl Cadiz · 5 Sept 2020, 16:42

@jsnzart that does sound nice but I'd be lying to myself if I were to hope that there will be a happy ending. There's no winners here. There's a lesson to be learned but not everyone will accept it. Some people will still hate Jake, some people will still hate Dunn, Both of their reputations tarnished, and the art community will forever be scarred by this event.

Shyam Sailus · 5 Sept 2020, 16:47

@Nyrryl-Cadiz it reminds me of the Couplet

In flesh by fire inflamed, nature may thoroughly heal the sore;
In soul by tongue inflamed, the ulcer healeth never more

jsnzart · 5 Sept 2020, 16:58

I think, somehow Jake will show that it was simply a coincidence.

Mr.Dunn will find he has no other options but to accept it.

Mr.Dunn WILL make a public apology. Not just to Jake and his followers, but also to Dunn’s own followers.

Both artists WILL keep their followers and good sales of their awesome books.

People, especially in the community, WILL remember this. And keep an open mind for the future.

Nyrryl Cadiz · 5 Sept 2020, 16:55

@Shyam-Sailus well, that's poetic

NessIllustration · 5 Sept 2020, 16:56

@jsnzart It would be wonderful it things worked like this, but we are not directly involved in this situation and cannot directly affect the outcome. No matter how hard we imagine a beautiful ending, it will not make it so. It's in the hands of lawyers now. No matter who wins, the other side may never change their opinion. But I hope we can learn from this so it doesn't happen again.

jsnzart · 5 Sept 2020, 17:02

@NessIllustration I agree.

But, it is better to talk about it with a positive outlook.

Even if we make it up.

NessIllustration · 5 Sept 2020, 17:10

@jsnzart Sometimes things aren't good but it feels like a relief to talk about our hurt, disappointment, fears and frustrations It's different for everyone, but I know if I try to just pretend everything is puppies and rainbows, it will not help me deal with a frustrating or hard situation. I've been really heartbroken about this story and trying to defend Jake on social media, trying to provide another side to people who have made their minds and are being very mean, has proven disheartening and frustrating. Being able to discuss the situation here with like-minded and level-headed people has been a real blessing, so I really want to thank each and everyone of you!

jimsz · 5 Sept 2020, 18:05

both parties will come to some sort of agreement and the issue will simply go away.

However, the damage has been done. Jake Parker was dumped on for trademarking and enforcing the trademark after spending years encouraging others to make use of it. Now that he was publishing a book cashing in on it in the eyes of many it will be difficult to recover from the bad publicity.

There are no winners.

jsnzart · 5 Sept 2020, 21:06

I didn’t mean any disrespect to anyone here.

And, yes this situation sucks.

But, Jake has people like you supporting him. That’s awesome!

Nyrryl Cadiz · 6 Sept 2020, 08:10

@jsnzart no worries. We totally understand what you mean

Matt Baldwin · 6 Sept 2020, 08:32

Not that anyone here needs convincing of Jake's character, but I thought I'd just share this as it's a positive.

I responded to Jake's newsletter this week telling him that I back him 100%.

I just received an email from him now thanking me for my kind words. He told me he really appreciated me reaching out.

So despite all the hate and negativity that is being directed at Jake online, and the horrendous week that he must have had, he still took time out to thank me personally. That's Jake Parker.

danielerossi · 6 Sept 2020, 12:45

@jsnzart So true. A mindfulness app I use mentioned how negativity breeds more negativity. Sadness breeds more sadness. Positivity breeds more positivity. I really like how @Matt-Baldwin replied to Jake’s newsletter. Despite all this, he still sent out his newsletter with only a short sentence saying how much of a bad week we had been going through but was still going to share cool things. That’s why Jake has so many fans. Nice breeds nice.

jsnzart · 6 Sept 2020, 13:17

@danielerossi Indeed.

Mr.Jake must be keeping it together pretty well.
Probably drawing and relaxing his mind.

SethWolfshorndl · 7 Sept 2020, 04:53

Just want to add my voice to the many others supporting Jake here. I watched all of Alphonso's video and some of the reaction videos. Like others, I can say I have seen basically this same content in many other art books/tutorials over the year. Alphonso's book seems to be a very detailed dive into the material, though, and well worth a purchase! The "layout" issues seem either accidental or close to Alphonso's own similarities to previous art books. And if Jake really had plagiarized the book, then why would he had spotlighted it on Instagram so close to the announcement of his book? The courses on this site and Jake's YouTube videos are testimony to his teaching cred and knowledge... something you can't fake. It's really disappointing this has happened. I'm hoping for some sort of good resolution, but I guess the damage has already been done.

8 Sept 2020, 22:20

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Coley · 8 Sept 2020, 17:50

@rafaartstudio we live in very strange times where people invent their own facts. As someone with a university/health/science background, it perplexes me! I still can't believe Dunn has that video up with that title either.

sigross · 8 Sept 2020, 20:30

I noticed when I watched Dunn's video that he had an arm in his book, obviously I thought that cross hatching style and characteristic arm pose was similar to one by Flemish artist Peter Paul Rubens. And there online I found a video of Alphonso copying Rubens exact crosshatch and pose. shock, horror! I mean in his book, he did move the fingers slightly so not to make it too obvious.
But still, this plagiarism is never ending!
It's a shame Peter is no longer with us to defend his original work, crosshatch and arm poses.

Lee White · 8 Sept 2020, 21:29

@sigross Love the sentiment here! But that Rubens drawing would fall under fair use due to it's age. The copyright would have run out long ago. Now, depending on where this image was published, that company may have new rights to it. Gets tricky there. @davidhohn what do you think?

sigross · 8 Sept 2020, 21:55

@Lee-White I thought it was ironic in this video that Alphonso is up for copying what has gone before saying it's the best thing you can do.
As far as I'm aware the book Rubens planned on anatomical drawings was never completed. There's a selection of drawings that could be in the MET collection. I think they're in the public domain.