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Inktober Book Plagerism Accusations

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  • lpetiti
    lpetiti last edited by 11 Sept 2020, 18:21

    I teach a couple of animation classes at the high school level. Each year I always off Inktober as a BIG extra credit opportunity (if they do all 31 days, they get excused from an assignment of their choice). Today, as I brought it up, some students asked about the controversy. We ended up having an interesting discussion about the topic, and about cancel culture in general. I really wanted to make sure that students understood the importance of researching stuff like this controversy on their own, then forming their own conclusions. I gave them my opinion about how I didn't think there was enough evidence to really support a copyright claim, and also told them the importance of handling things like this privately, rather than letting the Internet be judge, jury and executioner, like what's happening right now.

    I think the essence of Inktober has always been to develop good drawing habits and inking skills. For me at least, it's not just about Jake Parker (although I love that he created the challenge). It's more about me getting more confidence in my own art. So I told the students if they still want to participate, to definitely do it. I care more about them developing good habits, even if it's through doing a different month long challenge, then I do with them blindly agreeing with everything I say simply because they think they need to.

    Anyway, just wanted to share that experience.

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    Julia Nyrryl  Cadiz 2 Replies Last reply 11 Sept 2020, 18:44 Reply Quote 17
    • Julia
      Julia @lpetiti last edited by Julia 11 Sept 2020, 18:31 11 Sept 2020, 18:28

      @lpetiti I think it is a great teaching, your students are spoilt to have you

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      • lpetiti
        lpetiti @Julia last edited by 11 Sept 2020, 18:39

        @Julia Aw, that's very flattering! I appreciate it.

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        "So the man who really loves God could...paint his pictures, even if no man ever saw them. He knows God looks upon them." - Francis Shaffer.

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        • Nyrryl  Cadiz
          Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @lpetiti last edited by Nyrryl Cadiz 11 Sept 2020, 19:49 11 Sept 2020, 18:44

          @lpetiti this actually made me really happy to know that teachers like you are still out there in the world. keep up the good work. we need more artists who are not only good in their craft but are also good people.

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          • lpetiti
            lpetiti @Nyrryl Cadiz last edited by 11 Sept 2020, 19:31

            @Nyrryl-Cadiz I really do try. I love being able to show my students that I'm also a "working" artist. There have been many Fridays where I will pull out the Cintiq while they're working and work alongside them. Bit hard to do that right now with Distance Learning but we'll figure something out.

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            "So the man who really loves God could...paint his pictures, even if no man ever saw them. He knows God looks upon them." - Francis Shaffer.

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            • peteolczyk
              peteolczyk last edited by 11 Sept 2020, 20:58

              I’ve not been on here in a good while but thought I’d add some positive support to Jake.
              I really admire his professionalism through all this.

              I’ll struggle to do Jakes full Inktober but looking forward to playing with ink again when I get a few minutes.

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              • Pamela Ruddy
                Pamela Ruddy last edited by 12 Sept 2020, 11:01

                Ethan Becker's take: https://youtu.be/_Xjli9kzkoU

                It's not particularly flattering to Jake (it shows Dunn's accusations and he attempts to compare with other books and doesn't find close matches).

                However, he is a bit sceptical throughout and his main takeaway is that just because one side of the story looks damning doesn't mean that is what happened, other explanations exist and this mob justice thing - even if Jake was guilty - is terrifying.

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                • davidhohn
                  davidhohn SVS Instructor Pro @Pamela Ruddy last edited by davidhohn 12 Sept 2020, 17:03 12 Sept 2020, 17:00

                  @Pamela-Ruddy I saw this recently too. Weird guy. But also funny? Definitely a YT "personality".
                  The chart and comparisons were potentially interesting, but he never quite explained it fully. At least in a way that I understood.

                  More than most opinion videos on this topic, this one felt like the most blatant view grab. And I don't fault him, he was pretty clear from the start of the video that was his goal! He did wrap it up with the commentary on mob justice which is maybe the most important issue to come from this whole situation.

                  Well, that and the idea that "fuzzy balls" could become a shorthand for an accusation of plagiarism.
                  As in: "Seems like you've got a real fuzzy balls situation going on here!"

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                  NessIllustration P 2 Replies Last reply 12 Sept 2020, 20:58 Reply Quote 2
                  • NessIllustration
                    NessIllustration Pro @davidhohn last edited by NessIllustration 12 Sept 2020, 17:36 12 Sept 2020, 17:36

                    @davidhohn LOL for someone unfamiliar with this situation, "fuzzy ball" sounds like it could reference something entirely different.

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                      pixel.dsp @davidhohn last edited by 12 Sept 2020, 20:58

                      @davidhohn It also seemed pointless to have used Loomis’ Creative Illustration as a comparison reference. That book is mostly about composition exploration, not pen technique.

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                      • Pamela Ruddy
                        Pamela Ruddy last edited by 12 Sept 2020, 23:09

                        I only came across this channel when it was referenced by one of the channels who had also had a video about this plagerism situation and this is the only video I have watched of his. It definitely looks like he's on the entertainment side of art YouTube rather than educational 😅

                        His comments section definitely seemed to be more sceptical about the allegations anyway.

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                        • davidhohn
                          davidhohn SVS Instructor Pro @NessIllustration last edited by 12 Sept 2020, 23:35

                          @NessIllustration I'm sorry . . . I can't possibly imagine what in the world you could possibly mean. . .

                          . . . Tennis perhaps?

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                          • jthomas
                            jthomas last edited by 15 Sept 2020, 15:24

                            Just got comfirmaiton my Inktober Book will be shipping Oct 20th! Yeaaaah!!! 🙂

                            To Thy Self be True

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                            • NessIllustration
                              NessIllustration Pro @jthomas last edited by 16 Sept 2020, 02:15

                              @jthomas That's too late for Inktober though 😮 That's too bad that they missed their perfect release window because of this - the revenue will very likely be affected...

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                              • davidhohn
                                davidhohn SVS Instructor Pro @NessIllustration last edited by 16 Sept 2020, 02:55

                                @NessIllustration True that it is perhaps too bad to miss Inktober this year, but this feels like the kind of book that will have a long sales tail. I actually don't think it will be a significant issue. In fact a year from now, when the drama has died down (and ideally when the plagiarism issue has been put to rest) I would see that being better for the book.

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                                • danielerossi
                                  danielerossi @davidhohn last edited by 16 Sept 2020, 12:19

                                  @davidhohn Especially now that Inktober52 is around, too 🙂 Gives us a year to read the book in preparation for October 2021.

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                                    pixel.dsp @jthomas last edited by 16 Sept 2020, 14:12

                                    @jthomas Whaaaaat?.... It is still marked as "currently unavailable" on Amazon Canada... 😢

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                                    • burvantill
                                      burvantill Moderator @pixel.dsp last edited by 16 Sept 2020, 18:46

                                      @pixel-dsp @jthomas
                                      Me too!! Arriving 10/20/20
                                      =)x

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                                      • braden H
                                        braden H @pixel.dsp last edited by braden H 16 Sept 2020, 18:55 16 Sept 2020, 18:53

                                        @pixel-dsp Amazon Canada cancelled my order, but it's now once (as of today I suppose?) again available for preorder.

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                                        • charitymunoz
                                          charitymunoz last edited by 16 Sept 2020, 22:11

                                          Mine says now expected Oct 20th, but it hasn't been shipped yet and when you get on the page of the book, it still shows as Currently Unavailable. I'm hoping it arrives as a nice well-done present for finishing Inktober - something to read while I get ready for 2021!

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