Inktober Book Plagerism Accusations
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@Lee-White this is what I was thinking! I made a simple comment on instagram that I was excited to get my pre-ordered copy of Jake’s book and since then I’ve had like 10 random people throwing shade my way for ‘supporting a thief’ and ‘promoting stolen work’ and that I should ‘cancel that order immediately’. It’s ridiculous. I tried to reply back to one person by saying “Thanks but I’m still going to purchase the book. I’m a supporter of Jake Parker and I’d prefer to hear what he has to say on the matter before passing judgement based on one party’s point of view” - of course they had their settings set to not allowing comments that mention their name (didn’t know this was a thing). But yeah, it seems it might have been a good idea for Alphonso to shoot Jake a quick email or phone call addressing some of his concerns first to allow Jake to reply before throwing up an hour long video crying to all of his thousands and thousands of followers who are now shitting fireballs all over the internet. This whole thing upsets me.
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The video that I watched where a man reviewed Alphonso's books, mentioned Inktober at the beginning of his review. I wonder how many book sales he's gotten over the years due to Inktober and Jake. I wonder if that's crossed his mind?! He may lose sales when Jake's book comes out, but that's how it goes. Without Jake and Inktober he might lose even more.
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@Marta-Kitka right?! But then I'm not sure what I expected from someone ballsy enough to use the name in the video title of the person they are accusing. Right now its just an accusation not fact so its really slanderous.
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@K-Flagg I think Alphonso should have thought about it for a week or two before he made his video, he really overreacted and I seriously don’t believe he himself came up with everything he mentioned in his own books, it’s impossible. Unfortunately Jake’s last youtube video is already being flooded with negative comments and accusations.
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I’m very happy to read Jake Parker’s reply he posted on Instagram.
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@korilynneillo I just looked up on the internet what was the "cancel culture" and the mechanism of it. Thanks for pointing this out. It is exactly what is happening right now...
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@Marta-Kitka you can be assured that he know what he is doing and to what it hopefully will lead to...
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@Julia It's crazy! The Illustration Department podcast had a really good discussion on it a while back if you'd like to learn more about it (plus it's just a great podcast!). The episode is #13 with Leila Sales, who wrote a kidlit book about it.
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@George-Broussard Wait, WHAT!? Deviant dropped inktober events over this? WOW. I admire your cancelling your account with them. Did you let them know why?
Lisa Burvant
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Start here: https://www.lettershoppe.com/blog
more on her IG
https://www.instagram.com/lettershoppenation/with the story from side of one of the models she infringed on https://www.instagram.com/evyan.whitney/
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What year did the first Inking course come out here on SVS?
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One thing I find interesting (and unfair) is how quickly a chunk of the art community can turn against a person. Regardless of the goodwill that has been built, the countless hours spent offering free advice and support and all around good personness (thats a word, trust me), that people will disregard all of that in pursuit of drama and to find a villain to focus their energies on. A story can just take off and if a strong enough fan base gets a hold of it, oh boy, hold on. We've seen that will Ellen DeGeneres--She's done amazing things for the world for years and years yet now the story and momentum has shifted against her for what is perhaps perceived vs. what is known.
I'm not totally sure what the takeaways are either but its just something that rattles around in my mind. The bigger the audience gets, the harder it becomes to control messaging and even the most thoughtful, well backed up evidence is disregarded for drama posts on social media. As humans, seems like we have to strive to be the absolute best versions of ourselves, continue to be selfless with our community and do the best we can-perhaps if a cancel culture issue comes up, the damage may be reduced.
What an absolute clustermuck…Devastated for Jake and disappointed beyond belief on how this is playing out.
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@AnthonyWheeler I found this post announcing the class in Sept 2015:
https://forum.svslearn.com/topic/422/just-launched-how-to-ink?_=1598659531264
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My heartfelt sympathy that this is happening. I don't think anyone here could deny Jake's reputation as an artist, being a person of integrity, or his generosity as a teacher. My pre-order remains as long as it takes.
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@burvantill said in Inktober Book Plagerism Accusations:
Wait, WHAT!? Deviant dropped inktober events over this? WOW. I admire your cancelling your account with them. Did you let them know why?
Yes, I did. It won't matter but there needs to be some pushback against nonsense.
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People are vicious right now... If you take a neutral or with any hint of taking JP’s view, people just attack you and say “Did you watch Alphonso’s entire video?” This is ridiculous, I can say the same thing to Alphonso: “Did you read Jake’s entire book before publicly defaming him over pen&ink concepts you did not invent?”
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I work in the medical field and almost all the medical textbooks have very similar order of presenting and explaining disease entities. In pathology, for example, it is most often: Epidemiology -> Clinical presentation/symptoms -> Pathologic findings -> Prognosis. Authors don’t accuse of each other for presenting concepts with similar titles in the same order, that would be farcical! It’s plagiarism if you copied sentences word for word and rip off the exact same image from another book/article. It would be narcissistic to think that once you’ve published on a topic, no one else should publish on the same topic. That’s like saying artists don’t have their own personal unique point of view to bring to the same topic. So why keep writing love songs when there are thousands of those already...
But I have to voice my concern that will not be popular on this forum: is it at all possible Jake pushed out this book too quickly without enough research to see if there may be risks of plagiarism accusations?... -
@Marta-Kitka yeah it’s like:”don’t send an email when you are angry”
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@pixel-dsp I don't think this is an unpopular question only because Jake Parker seems to have gone through the trouble of crediting people in his book. We just haven't seen that yet. Alphonso Dunn (afaik because I couldn't watch the entire 57 minutes of his video) seems to be coming from a place where he thinks he invented much of this stuff. If Jake Parker has been teaching this so long and is confident about where his book fits in the tradition of teaching inking methods, then I don't see why he wouldn't make a regular publisher deadline on it to coincide with Inktober.
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There are a number of issues being discussed here, though related they are quite different.
The issue of plagiarism on the layout of a book by cherry picking or accessing a couple pages is ludicrous. there are only so many ways to layout graphics and in any visual book you can find similarities. Until the entire book can be compared there is no way to say if the look and layout was copied.
As for the topic/steps/mechanics of inking, these terms, demo's/examples and tools have been universal for many lifetimes. My instructors in college were world level artists and far removed from jake. They used the same examples shown in the pages shown. It's ridiculous to think one person owns any method that has been used for generations.
The gentleman on youtube has acted out like too many on social media and online, react and attack. what happened to thought and discussion? I can't say legally who is right as I am not an attorney or expert but using common sense clarifies it in my mind.
As for sites cancelling "inktober", don't come down on them without knowing their reasons. They could just be tools who are reactionary or they may simply want to avoid any issues with using a trademarked word. trademark is far different than copyrights. A trademark owner is required to defend their trademark or risk losing it and/or having it enter public domain. While a trademark owner may be willing to accept loose enforcement and let the mark be used - attorneys and publishers are not so willing to be nice. When Inktober was trademarked the owner I am sure realized, or should have realized, not only would there be flack over registering what what others were encouraged to use but that there would be damage to that brand that would affect participation. the phrase went from being a community activity to an activity that was owned (in name only but owner nonetheless). I'm not so sure the trademark would have been granted had opposition been submitted during the filing period with clear examples of the history of the phrase.
It is disheartening to see artists, who are supposed to open and willing to explore openly attack Jake the way they are. I guess I wrongly believed that creative people were the type to not jump to conclusions.
