Question on: How to get your First 10K Followers.
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I am following more people than follow me, but I think that is because I’m learning. So I’m following people who I can learn something from. I have been weeding out some that are not relevant to art recently because as @tombarrettillo says, it’s difficult to get through all the new posts unless you want to spend hours on the internet.
For two years I had about 35 followers on my business feed, friends and family. I was very discouraged, then someone I followed started a blog called smart artist income using Instagram tactics to increase your following and sales. I started off using the hashtag suggestions and doubled my following the next month. Still, 70ish followers was not a lot, but it gave me insight into what hashtags were working. I also abused tagging for a while, it worked a little bit, but like @smceccarelli, I was thinking it was too rude. So I only tag now when a “multiplier” says its okay in their profiles. Seven months later and I have 120 followers. It’s still not a lot, but it is steadily growing now, so I’m no longer frustrated.
I would love to hear how to find the Art Directors and Editors on Instagram and Twitter, so that I can silently stalk them for a while to learn what I need to do to make them love me. Lol. I’m actually serious, though. How do you find them? Exactly? (0.0)
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I think @TessaW nailed it regarding the importance & non-importance of the follower/following ratio.
I wouldn’t worry too much about followers per-say. You need to ask yourself what your ultimate goal is… ultimately get paid for you art. I’d prefer to have 100 followers who regularly buy my art than 10K followers where they just ‘like’ my art.
That being said, just putting out good content isn’t enough. Just like @smceccarelli stated marketing your work is important. Leveraging off influencers and curators is always a good strategy for any marketing platform.
There are plenty of paid and free curators on Instagram that you can leverage off. I would hesitate paying, but with many of them if you tag them you go into a ‘draw’ to be featured. I’ve had one of my portraits featured and I got around 50 new followers.
Also, spend time to consider who you are targeting. @smceccarelli mentions they try to get their work infront of childrens writers, editors and art directors – people that will directly contribute to the bottom line. Consider the audience different curators and influencers have. Are their followers your target audience?
The same goes for hashtags. Consider what type of hashtags your target audience will follow.
Regarding @Alexis-Janis question regarding buying instagram followers. I would avoid this. Why? Firstly, many of these services can use bots, and if they don't many of the followers are usually low low quality. I wouldn’t bother. I’ve never had any long term succeed using these shortcuts with client accounts.
Also consider how you can direct traffic outside of Instagram to your Instagram.
- Do you have an email list? Encourage them to follow you on Instagram.
- Do you show your art at markets or conventions? Get them to sign up to your email list or Instagram.
- Are you successful on other social media? Promote your Instagram on other social platforms.
- Have you considered guest posting on a children’s writers website? You can link to your website or Instagram from there.
- Maybe you know of a podcast that art directors listen to? Come up with something of value you can share with their audience, and reach out to the podcast host.
Hope that gives you some ideas.
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For me, I just try to be the kind of follower that I want to have. So all that means is, I follow only people who are posting things I'm truly interested in, and if I'm not into what I see someone posting, I un-follow them. When I see something I really like or have a thought about, I make a comment. I keep my posts focused on my art with an occasional personal post now and again so they know who I am. I have slightly more followers than accounts I'm following, but a lot of that has to do with me being followed by friends/family who I don't follow back--I prefer to keep my IG feed about art and my Facebook feed about friends/family.
However, I'm not really focused on building a following right now, for where I am I'm mostly interested in networking with other artists. That means I'm following hashtags like #kidlitart and #childrensillustrator and connecting with people using those.
Speaking of, I don't think I've seen many SVS people in the #KidLitArt chat on twitter on Thursday nights, but you all should join in! Truth be told its all I really do on twitter.... someday I'll have a full social media strategy, but for now I just do what I feel good about and let the rest go. (Mothering takes all my focus, guys.
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I am getting my doctorate in Instructional technology and this is just about the most interesting thread right now. I literally just finished writing a discussion post on using Twitter to develop oneself professionally and then this post shows up on the forum. I am learning a ton from you and am following many of you on IG now after reading your comments. This is WAY better than textbooks. Keep it up!
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@smceccarelli
As always you did your homework! Fantastic and real-life information!
The concept of multipliers fascinates me. Is, in reality, the same as always but translated to the digital world. A boxer friend of mine is patenting a new training punching bag and is next step is to give for free the first prototypes to famous boxers so they film themselves training with it and post it in Instagram.
Multipliers are what in the real world we call "connectors" which are one of the three types of persons that are key to epidemics (when an unknown product becomes successful in a short period of time, the equivalent to digital world term "go viral") There are "connectors", "Mabens" or connoisseurs, and "salesmen" or persuaders.
Malcolm Gladwell explains these concepts in his book "The tipping point", which I recommend.
I wonder if we can learn more from this, I mean, how Mavens and Salesmen translates into Digital world, etc.
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@chrisaakins Well you can bring some information too
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@pamm I think that that is a consequence that naturally happens when you start to have big numbers of followers. Then, naturally, you can't keep up with the number, can't follow 10k people, unless that you dedicate your whole life to Instagram.
Successful instagramers have big numbers of followers= for instance they have a lot more followers than people you follow= then some clever guy/girl make the connexion and conclude "well if all successful instagramers have more followers than "follow" people, that has to be an important requisite".
Only that is not. Is only a natural and organic consequence that happens when you grow up too much. Is simply a good sign of your follower healthiness.
I don't think to not follow people only for the sake of the rate is important or even a good thing. If I'm interested in someone I follow then no matter the rate he/her has. Don't you? -
Great discussion! Myself I am an emerging artist, who has been trying to change their finance career for illustration for the past two years. One year ago, I have joined facebook and instagram and I found it harsh to be not liked much;-) Some time ago i have decided to stop worrying about followers on facebook or instagram and just focus on getting good. In the end thats the only satisfying way. Playing game of following and unfollowing is time consuming and doesn't add value. Also can be discouraging. At this moment i have only 148 followers but whats cool is that this year I got two jobs from instagram
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@aska sounds like we are in similar situation. I am in the process of aiming to switch my career in revenue management to design and illustration. I have 146 followers on instagram so you're ahead of me!
I was getting frustrated with instagram, I have decided for now not to worry about it and just try to post 1-2 things a week, even if it is just little character illustrations. Between work, college courses, and my kids I don't have much free time for the next year or so. I'm just looking to get better and have fun along the way. -
@miss-beans now you have 1 more follower;-) your instagram looks lovely - specially first 2 raws come very well together. Good luck on you career switch!
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@aska Thank you, how nice of you - yours looks lovely too.
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@miss-beans Ah, now I had to go and look at your instagram and you blew me away with your cute style! I love it! Ps. You got 1 follower more.
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@aska Wow 2 jobs? That's awesome! Shows that the tale of having a lot of followers and fame on instragram is all but a fable
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@sas I think good following matters but sometimes you can get lucky without it and thats what happened to me
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@sas Thank you! I am following you too - love to see all your beautiful creations. Your chickens made me smile!!
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I find the most effective thing for Instagram is to post every day. I know that's not ground breaking news, but when I'm busy with client work and don't get the time to do any self generated work, I find it difficult to get the engagement back when I'm free again.
Liking and engaging with other people's work/comments on your work is super-important too, but again, if you're struggling for time that is difficult. I've made some really good illo-buddies on Twitter/Insta, but it's hard work.
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It's hard at first because you will inevitably start with more than you are following than you have followers, but It just takes time.
I love doing monthly challenges to boost my followers by getting super involved in the challenge hashtag and sharing some love among the other artists doing that month. Be involved by commenting and liking other artist work.
Never follow just to get a follow back.
Make great content.
I tried out an Instagram promotion recently and it was super helpful! I got 400 new followers from it. But I was already at a pretty high number and it targets new followers based on your current followers and if you don't have a large base then it won't work well for you.
I also go through my following list occasionally and stop following people that I'm just not inspired by anymore.
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Lately I have chosen not to care about the following system on instagram anymore. I got tired of people following me only so I should follow them back and then they left. It got me saddened because I felt cheated in some way. It made me selfconsious in my art and I thought my art wasn't good enough which made me very hesitant to post anything at all.
Then I started thinking about how unhealthy my way of thinking is. Like, why should I post stuff for others? Why do I care so much about what others think of my art? It's just like with a person, either they like you or they don't. So I started not giving a crap and posting stuff that I want to post and who likes it, that's wonderful and who doesn't, well I guess it's not their thing and that's oke.
And about the follow-following cat and mouse game, I don't care anymore. If I like somebody's art I will follow them and not because they are following me. I keep my instagram to see my own growth and the people who stick with me makes me very grateful and humble and they give me encouragment to get better and develop myself.
I understand that people need followers if they're depending on instagram to get their art out into the world but while going on my soul-instagram-search, I got this deep thought of paths coming your way when you are ready for them and I think landing jobs in this business will come by posting your art and not by how many followers you have. As stated above, it matters WHO follows you and the word they spread on your behalf!
So, that was my ten shillings of Tuesday morning wisdom. Now back to class
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@Sas Well said!
