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    • smceccarelli
      smceccarelli Pro SVS OG @Jon Anderson last edited by

      @jon-anderson Yes, I think in terms of narrative clarity it would make more sense if it was a creek. Otherwise the story of the image gets very complex: „the boy has been to the creek to fish crawdads, but now is on the way home, he got tired and sat down under a tree and he’s looking at his catch and something about it surprises him“. It´s tricky to convey all of this story into a single image without confusing the viewer. „The boy is at the creek happily catching crawdads“ makes for a much clearer, simpler and impactful narrative.
      Proportions are tricky in children and it´s easy to make kids look too old. I don’t know what your target age is - maybe 8-10? If you look at photos of kids of that age, you’ll see that they still don’t have large muscles (they come with puberty), their shoulders are narrow and their ribcage tiny. Arms and legs are thin and don’t have a lot of muscle definition (I sometimes wonder how my daughter can stand and walk on those sticks). It can be really hard to get kids to look the right age, especially if you’re more used to drawing adults.
      Looking forward to see the next phase!

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      • Jon Anderson
        Jon Anderson SVS OG last edited by

        I really took those suggestions about the trees and proportions to heart. Are the tweaks I made actually improvements? Does the path now look more like a still creek? I also added the boarder guide after the instructions @smceccarelli gave in another thread and for some reason PS loves to snap to them so this explains the hard lines at the bottoms and sides. Those will be edited as I progress.
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        • jimsz
          jimsz last edited by

          I like the composition a great deal but the way the boy is holding the crab is a bit odd. It may be what works best for the view you have but it's been my experience that boys will usually grab a crab by the body. Just a thought.

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          • Jon Anderson
            Jon Anderson SVS OG @jimsz last edited by

            @jimsz That is a great point! There was a story/interaction in mind when first designing and I have since abandoned it in favor of a more natural scene. I totally forgot about changing the crawdad to fit the new direction. Thanks! Do you suppose the single finger and thumb hold as is works or would a two finger grip look better?

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            • Chip Valecek
              Chip Valecek SVS Team SVS OG @Jon Anderson last edited by

              @jon-anderson if you go to the menu "View" there is an option to turn off snap. I usually turn it on when I am doing web design but when I draw in photoshop I make sure to uncheck it.


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              • Jon Anderson
                Jon Anderson SVS OG last edited by

                Seeing this through. I started rushing to paint and knew I shouldn't have so I slowed myself down and went back to tighten up the sketch. Posting the progress. Now I'm ready to paint.

                0_1528926380016_Crawdad Test.jpg

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                • braden H
                  braden H last edited by

                  Wow! Much improved. I'm looking forward to seeing it painted.

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                  • Chip Valecek
                    Chip Valecek SVS Team SVS OG @Jon Anderson last edited by

                    @jon-anderson looking good, its going to be a great piece when you are finished!


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                    • Miriam
                      Miriam @Jon Anderson last edited by Miriam

                      @jon-anderson
                      I think the composition is looking good! I agree with the other comments and you've done a great job at following their advice.

                      Something that I would say could still use tweaking is the chest and waist. Kids are very straight in the torso. I think you could bring in the top of the chest all the way to where the arm/armpit line starts, and go straight down to the butt from there. The skinny arms look good for an active boy. This kid's expression is great! You've done a good job on the hands and feet as well.

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                      • Jon Anderson
                        Jon Anderson SVS OG last edited by

                        I'm trying to fight off all my rookie painting desires and do things in the proper order. Specifically, I'm trying to follow Will Terry's digital painting format. I've gotten as far as shadows and tone and I think I like the direction it's going, though I may go back and lighten the sky a bit if not the overall tone.
                        0_1529353688334_Crawdad Test.jpg

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                        • holleywilliamson
                          holleywilliamson SVS OG @Jon Anderson last edited by

                          @jon-anderson This is looking really great! His foot on the left is looking a little awkward, it feels like it would be really hard to sit with the foot so turned out. You did a great job on the perspective if only his body lined up with it. I think more of a profile view of the foot would look more comfotable

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