Brutally Honest
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Hello my name is Frank. I a fairly new to the art scene, however I am in my 30's. I grew up a specific and personal way. What i would like to share about my childhood is that I did not have to worry about fluff because i always got the brutally honest truth. There is always something great to say about encouragement and encouraging words should never go unnoticed. One of my frustrations in pursuing art right now is that i cannot find honest feedback. I get the American Idol treatment. You know the "who told you that you can sing...my mom did."
My question is this: Is there somewhere on this thread where i can get honest feedback of my work? I'm not looking for approval or feeling boosters. I am looking to find ways to see the wrongs that i do not see. I have to catch up fo the 15 or so years of neglect that i have committed. Sure art has loose to no boundaries. I get that. But is there a group forum i can be directed to for straight up truthful can constructive criticism?
Much love and God Bless!
Much love and God bless!
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Well, you're in the right place. There's a lot of real constructive criticism happening here, just so long as you specify what you were trying to accomplish and what you'd like to be critiqued on. A vague "here's my art, tear me apart" might not get you far, but if you say "I tried to create a bright and fun illustration, do you think my color palette conveys that?" or "I feel the composition is a bit confusing, how do you think I could improve it to make things clearer?" and you'll have plenty of people happy to help you. Browse through the art sharing posts down here and see for yourself, there are seriously talented people here!
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I agree with @NessIllustration
If you're precise (or at least not IMprecise) about what you're trying to get feedback on you will get more in the way of honest feedback.
If you make it easy for people to drop a quick comment about something you need to work on, they'll be more likely to.
However, If you wanna get really torn apart, you could always post on Reddit
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@art-of-b what's a good subreddit to get torn apart on? For kids books illustration stuff? I looked and didnt find much. I've posted to r/art in the past with sculptures, but haven't found a good digital art sub yet.
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@kylebeaudette Oh, I just meant, like, in general. As in Reddit (though wonderful) can be pretty barbaric sometimes.
I don't think there's any active subreddits for kids illustration (sadly enough)
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Yeah, be specific. Build relationships with others here. I donât have time to do an ridiculously long crit âjust becauseâ. If youâre looking for something specific it is much easier. In the 10000000 hour podcast jake talks about focus your practice in something specific. Then, bring it here and others can say if youâre accomplishing that goal. Also, if you hear crickets the art isnât resonating with others. Another thing is not say, â lâve come to this forum and notice all you guys do pats on the back for participation (edited this part because Iâm just a nice fluffy person and donât want to come across as a not nice), where can I find a forum thatâs not you that is better at critiquing, because yâall suck?â How bout that for honest? Invest the time here and you may find it helpful. Good luck in your search for honest feedback. You can also do live corses. I would bet they are worth every penny to have feedback by masters of the trade and subject.
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Oh my gosh! Sorry. I got so offended with an unsolicited critique on the forum. Iâm Sorry. Your post wasnât harsh. See what happens when something gets critiqued you werenât expecting. My claws came out. Yikes. I apologize. My art, I can take harsh words, but our forum is awesome. I got a little defensive. Momma bear came out!
Itâs really cool to interact with artists that are really making huge accomplishments with their art, to the hobbiest like myself just trying to get a little better. We all learn. Itâs good stuff.
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I agree with everyone and want to add that you get better returns on asking for critiques when you also join in when someone else asks for a critique.
Welcome
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@dafoota Just to echo what everyone else said here. It's really about being specific in what you're asking, people can still be nice but still specific. It's not so much about being harsh or being nice, it's about being specific and honest, and the best way to get that is to be specific in what you're looking for and what you're trying to achieve.
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In all the social media platforms iâve used, this forum is the most honest, knowledgable, and helpful one iâve found. Give it a try.
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You should try 4chan (i just discovered it). Theyâre really brutal tho. I wonât recommend to most but you can also give it a try.
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Again i say there is something great about encouragement especially if it is honest and or constructive.
In my city im around a group of artist that always says in front the artist nice stuff and then when they are gone tough stuff. Sometimes honest sometimes trash.
But for some reason i can see something is wrong but i can put my finger on it. When i ask my local group. I get practice. Haha
So on here i was just gonna bypass any grouos like that and get to those who can reveal to me my reality. Im on a mission to catchup 20 years. The niceness is good but sometimes not true. Im simply just saying i value the truth regardless on how it is delivered.
Witb that said thank you for all your feedback. I look forward in growing with you all. Im also excited for this community. I apologize if spread some negativity. That was not my intentions.
Much love and God bless!
Much love and God bless!
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Welcome @dafoota !
Just post the image and mention the trouble you are currently having with it & people on the forum help out
Because everyone here is trying to improve their art skills constantly !
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@dafoota 4chan is for you
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@whitney-simms no worries. I belive that hate breeds hate. I wasnt trying to be hateful. Just wondering what kind of forum i was to expect. Thank you for your honesty. I also knowhow hard it is to tell oneâs opinion without trying to tear them down.
Much love and God bless!
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Part of growing as an artist is also learning what kind of critique you need, what kind of critique are you prepared to work with and what kind of critique is not useful or even damaging to what youâre trying to do. Art is not like building a lego kit following the instructions or putting in the plumbing of a house - there is no ârightâ and âwrongâ way of doing it. Iâm not a âexpress-your-feelings-and-all-is-rightâ kind of person - quite the contrary. But after spending the last six years studying commercial illustration and the illustration world in all its facets, I think it´s too complex to expect guidance from any single source or sources - even from peer critique.
Of course many can give you honest feedback on fundamentals like anatomy, perspective, and some basic composition and color concepts. Wether that´s what you want to work on or even what you need is your decision. There are many artists who defy all of those consistently and are doing great work nonetheless.I guess what Iâm trying to say is that this community is very supportive, very knowledgeable and very open. You will get honest and constructive criticism here - different things from different people probably. The more precise you are with the kind of critique you want, the better will the response be. It´s a big help in seeing through the fog and start to understand the lay of the land. It´s still not the key to unlock progress - youâll need to figure out for yourself what the next step is and even where the road is.
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@smceccarelli awesome
Thank you for you feedback! I am grateful
Much love and God bless!
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@dafoota Really curious now!! you must post some art and I will be honest. I also lost 15-20 years with no art due to illness so I am catching up too. Art styles change in that time so try not to be old fashioned unless that is your style. The thing about critque is sometimes people take offence and never speak to you again so most people try to be polite. I must admit I can be afraid to give my opinions which is not much help to anyone.
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I came from the same type of upbringing, so I totally understand. Tact is something I had to learn (with the help of my wife) after I moved out of my parents house. This forum focuses more on support and being constructive, which is a good thing; however, it can be difficult for me to interpret people's feedback unless they are straight-forward. Just want you to know you're not alone. But I say post on here and ask people to be straight-forward and to the point with their critiques.
