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    • burvantill
      burvantill Moderator @ArtofAleksey last edited by burvantill

      @Aleksey when you stretch water color paper you basically soak it with a sponge or in a bath for about 20minutes, which expands all the fibers. Then you staple it onto an artboard while still wet, then let it dry. It eliminates the paper buckle when you apply a large wash, if you do it right🤪, In college I always had one side that would pop loose, but we used tape instead of staples. I know better now. 😬

      @Jason-Bowen what is lining paper?

      Lisa Burvant
      www.lisaburvant.com
      Instagram & Twitter & SVS: @burvantill

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      • demotlj
        demotlj SVS OG @Jason Bowen last edited by

        @Jason-Bowen What is lining paper and how do you use it to do line and wash?

        @Aleksey My current process is to do a sketch on regular paper or more often in Procreate on my iPad which I can then print off at the size I want my final work to be. I use my light table to trace that with an HB pencil onto watercolor paper, either hot press paper which is smoother and easier to draw on, or cold press paper which is a little rougher but I think is easier to work with the watercolor paint. (I keep going back and forth as to which paper I like better for the line and wash but have been mostly choosing hot press for anything that has a lot of line work.)

        Usually when I am doing watercolor paintings, I stretch the paper before I go any further as @burvantill explains. When I do it I soak it in water for 8 minutes, and staple it to gatorboard (a stiff lightweight dense foam board) and let it dry overnight. That means that I have to stop what I'm doing to let it dry which can be frustrating. With my line and wash, however, I'm not putting that much paint on in the end so I'm debating whether I even need to stretch the paper and if so, whether I should do it before or after I do the ink.

        Laurie DeMott
        instagram.com/demotlj

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        • ArtofAleksey
          ArtofAleksey @burvantill last edited by

          @burvantill whatt this sounds so cool. Ive been meaning to take Lee Whites watercolor class to learn more about this. As you can probably tell I focus too muc on line and ink and not enough on washes and watercolor.

          instagram and twitter: @artofaleksey
          alekseyillustration.com

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          • Jason Bowen
            Jason Bowen SVS OG last edited by Jason Bowen

            @burvantill @demotlj

            Lining paper is for wallpapering. The paper is almost like what the masters would have used eg. Turner and you can get a good heavy roll of paper that's millions cheaper than artist paper etc.

            This is a video of me using lining paper 😉
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ1x4uRgtgI

            https://www.instagram.com/jasonbowenoils/

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            • demotlj
              demotlj SVS OG @ArtofAleksey last edited by demotlj

              @Aleksey I love your line work so I would argue with your use of the words "too much" but adding the watercolor is fun.

              Here's what I am working on now so you can see what I'm talking about. (I still have some inking to do.) This is on hot press paper which I taped to the gaterboard but I decided not to stretch this one at all, especially because the owl will be mostly white so I won't use tons of paint. We'll see what happens. I keep going back and forth on my process though and can't decide what I prefer which is why I wondered what others do. IMG_5899.JPG

              Laurie DeMott
              instagram.com/demotlj

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              • ArtofAleksey
                ArtofAleksey @demotlj last edited by

                @demotlj this is very cool

                instagram and twitter: @artofaleksey
                alekseyillustration.com

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                • Heather Bouteneff
                  Heather Bouteneff last edited by

                  It's been forever and I'm certainly not a pro but I used to just wet the back to stretch it. Maybe this wouldn't work right though?

                  https://heatherbouteneff.com

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                  • Lee White
                    Lee White SVS Team SVS Instructor Pro SVS OG @Heather Bouteneff last edited by

                    @Heather-Bouteneff you need to wet the entire paper for stretching to work. What happens is the fibers expand and then you tape or staple the paper when it's in it's expanded state. Then when the paper drys and shrinks, it is tight as a drum. Only wetting one side will cause massive waves in the paper.

                    SVS Faculty Instructor
                    www.leewhiteillustration.com

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                    • demotlj
                      demotlj SVS OG @Lee White last edited by

                      @Lee-White I'll attest to that. I had read about that shortcut and tried it on one of my recent paintings and got lots of ripples.

                      Laurie DeMott
                      instagram.com/demotlj

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                      • demotlj
                        demotlj SVS OG last edited by

                        I ended up doing the ink on hot press without stretching it first and am going to try just leaving it taped (no stretching) and putting down light washes to see what happens. In the meantime, I imported it into Procreate to do a color study and this is what I came up with. We’ll see if I can translate this with watercolor and without stretching the paper. If I make a mess of it, at least I’ll have this digital paint/traditional ink hybrid.

                        CF1ADE04-D46F-4D2E-BC63-1827B86D54E2.jpeg

                        Laurie DeMott
                        instagram.com/demotlj

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