Advice on creative block

[carlianne]

Hi Mike! I am also a full time illustrator, and I recently struggled with not feeling like it was worth continuing as an artist, and thought about leaving illustration to do something else entirely. What saved me was SVS learn. I would listen to the classes with zero intentions to do an assignment, just to listen and learn. ( I would recommend doing the assignments, but I wasn't emotionally in a place that I could). However, as I listened to them, I started to want to try it out. So I started small. Choose one small thing that you might be able to do. Even if it's just drawing a 100 circles in your sketchbook to get better at your hand doing what you told it to.

I also listened to every single podcast. Every time I felt unhappy and upset with myself I would put a podcast on and I'd feel excited about art again, like it was achievable.

Then when I would draw, I would tell myself if I felt frustrated that meant I was learning, because when it was easy I wasn't growing. Every time you fail is an opportunity to learn.

And I never compare myself to another artist, just to myself a few months ago, or a year ago. I look to other artists for inspiration and how to push myself, but not "they're better than me, or I'm better than them" etc.

And finally, don't worry about if you are going to amount to anything. If your goal is to do art that you enjoy, focus on that. If you are making art that excites you, that will show up in what you create and you will push yourself to get better. And in my opinion the artists that "make it" aren't the most skilled, they are the most persistent.

Listen to the recent podcast "dream big" I feel like they touch on this a bit there. And good luck

I hope we get to see you try and fail and keep going.

[Mike C]

@carolinebautista Thank you so much for your helpful advice. I have been wanting to find a book with relatable anecdotes and examples like this one! I really like the excerpt about the dancer, it really captures how I've been feeling quite accurately. I was once drawing purely for fun and expression but then at sone point I got the notion that I'd like to draw for a living. Suddenly all of the pressure and expectations came flooding in from nowhere else but my own mind. I am aware it's totally a mental battle. But I am open to any literature that could help me find a way to work through this. Thanks again!

[Laurel Aylesworth]

Those voices of doubt and perfectionism will always be with you, so accept them as part of the creativity process...and learn to ignore them and create anyway. These are internalized messages we've received from society/family/peers and they are hard to block out because we want to do the thing that gains us love and acceptance. When my own doubt-infested voices get too loud, I know it's time for me to walk away for a moment or a day and come back later with fresh eyes. Also, maybe play some music while you're drawing and bring a little levity to it, or use crayons or collage to just "play." We're so wired in society to produce something, but we forget how to play. I second reading Art & Fear.

[Mike C]

@carlianne Wow. Comments like this are why I was so excited to join this community. Thank you so much for your relatable insight! I used to listen to the podcast religiously and I agree, it did make me feel inspired and excited about drawing every time. I should just start listening again and start getting back into the video lessons as well. I like the idea of just listening/watching the lessons without the intent to actually follow them. That makes the task feel a lot more manageable and less intimidating than the act of diving back into drawing. Regarding comparing ourselves to others, I definitely agree with you on that. I am constantly doing that especially because I'm always on social media following many great artist. I often ask myself how it is possible that they are able to stay so consistent and produced on a consistent basis. For me, the thought of that sounds impossible when every time I think of drawing, I imagine the constant barrage of self criticism. I do think I have a lot of mental hurdles to overcome. But I really am inspired by your input and am beginning to feel like I can try again and maybe finally stick with it this time. Thank you!

[NessIllustration]

@Mike-C My boyfriend, a writer, has the exact same problem. He expects too much of himself. He knows he can write really well, and instead of giving him confidence this knowledge only puts pressure on him. He wants his writing to be so perfect right off the bat that he struggles with writing a first draft. Because the first draft is supposed to be messy, and that's not good enough for him. It takes him forever to write a chapter because he's trying to focus on everything at once: great prose and character development and natural dialogue and great action and clear exposition and, and, and... When inevitably he slips and lets a mistake in like a plot hole, he berates himself endlessly and starts doubting that he's a great writer in the first place. When he gets out of his head, relaxes and just writes for fun, his true talent is finally free to shine.

That's the cruel irony of creation: the more perfect you try to force it to be, the less perfect it is. To create the perfect thing you have to try many different things and rule out everything that doesn't work. This means you have to be comfortable with failure. It's hard to do, but even just being aware that a perfectionist attitude is hindering you is the key to slowly modifying your attitude towards creating. My boyfriend just finished the first draft of his new novel! I know he had to fight every step of the way to keep it messy and just get it out on paper, but he was talking to himself very sternly about not falling into his old bad habits haha

[Mike C]

@Laurel-Aylesworth Yes! I want my art to feel more like play. I have always been intimidated by experimenting with other mediums like crayons or collages. But maybe that's exactly what I need. Thank you!

[Mike C]

@NessIllustration "To create the perfect thing you have to try many different things and rule out everything that doesn't work. This means you have to be comfortable with failure."

This is such a simple, yet powerful explanation of exactly what I need to comprehend. Thank you so much for breaking this down. Your boyfriend and I definitely sound like we have the same demons (or they're neighbors, at least!) It's so helpful to hear from other creatives, especially those with much more experience and to know that our struggles are similar. I will try harder to just have fun with my drawing and embrace failure. I will have fun and fail my way to success!

Thank you so much.

[Jeremy Ross]

Hi @Mike-C, you might also enjoy reading The Obstacle is the Way, by Ryan Holiday.

One of the best things you can do is stop comparing your work with other artists. Sure, it’s good to strive for betterment, but betterment without judgement is the way.

[Mike C]

@Jeremy-Ross Thank you so much for the suggestion! I'll be adding it to my reading list.

[NessIllustration]

@Mike-C "Fail my way to success" That is a motto to live by! Well said!

[carlianne]

@carlianne oh I'm so happy to hear that! I honestly really relate to the feeling.

I agree with a lot of what other people said about those doubts not really going away. So try not to beat yourself up for feeling insecure. It happens to most of us. There's nothing wrong with you. I view it as I have to decide if I want to be controlled by the thoughts in my head, or if ignore them and keep going anyway.

When I was in art school, it took me 3 tries to even get accepted into the program (6 months wait between each attempt). I was not at the top of the class, and I doubted myself often. In my senior year I cried weekly because I didn't know if I would make it after I graduated. My teachers recommended I change majors But after crying (and sometimes during) I'd pick my pen back up, put on my self confidence music and keep going. I was determined to prove my teachers and the voices wrong.

I landed a great job right after graduation and have been working full time ever since.

The only time I had a bump after that was when I got comfortable. I stopped pushing myself and my passion and skill dropped. Again I was told my people in authority that I was no good. That's what let to my recent insecurity.

I realized my insecurity resulted from lack of competence, which in turn resulted from lack of knowledge and practice. That is why I came to SVS.

So being uncomfortable is ok. Failing is inevitable. Beating yourself up is probably going to happen. But if you listen to those voices and give up, then they win. And you deserve better than that.

But don't start on everything all at once. Start small. Just listen at first. Then just do a tiny assignment or drawing. Don't critique it. I think Lee said he allowed himself to have 100 bad paintings before he tried to critique it. So all you need right now is some mileage. Critiques can come later.

One other thing that has helped me is drawing in sketchbooks with a pen. When I switched to pen it forced me not to get detail oriented or try to be perfect. If you mess up in pen you just draw it again. You get really used to accepting bad drawings as a part of the process. I still do all my thumbnails and thinking in pen so that I don't freeze up. Even though I work digitally for the final product.

Anyway that was a lot!! But I hope helpful. Good luck ️

[NessIllustration]

@carlianne I relate to your account so much! I was far from the top of my class when I studied animation - I was a slow animator and had a hard time keeping up the harsh pace. I was overwhelmed and always fell terribly behind. I nearly flunked almost every semester, and did flunk the semester once! But I got a job 2 weeks after graduating and have been working since. Some top students from my class aren't working today. You just never know how things are going to shake out and great grades or overwhelming natural talent aren't a guarantee of success, just like bad grades of lack of confidence aren't a guarantee of failure.

[TessaW]

I love this thread and I've loved reading through the very smart responses. I can really relate to you @Mike-C. I struggle with this too, but have gotten to the point where I can at least keep returning to art over the long run, and have been able to see progress in my skills. Still have mental healing to do, but a few things that have helped me:

1. Seeing early sketchbooks and early work of artists I admire. Seeing their humble beginnings compared to the level they are at now really is inspiring. If they had given up at any point along the way, we wouldn't have their amazing work now.

2. Becoming a parent! Lol, of course this can't apply to everyone, but experiencing the unconditional love for a child, has helped me view myself in a kinder light and extend some of that love to myself. I would hate it if my children are as hard on themselves as I am to myself. I want them to be able to make mistakes and to keep trying even if things aren't perfect. Why shouldn't I want that for myself? When I'm over critical of myself, I try to be my own parent. What advice would you @Mike-C , personally give to a kid who feels like they shouldn't draw because it's not perfect? You can extend that advice to yourself.

3. Drawing on cheap-ass paper and sketchbooks. My first sketchbooks after coming back to art were line-less marble composition books, bought 50 cents a piece on sale. The paper is very thin and they are practically falling apart by the time I'm done with them. I tell myself that the drawings on them are allowed to be super ugly. My kids are allowed to draw in them if they want. It takes a lot of the pressure away.

4. Giving myself a mantra. Some mantras I tell myself to keep away perfectionism "Finished not Perfect". "This is Not a Life or Death Situation" or "It's Not a Tiger" (our primitive brain is very good at treating inconsequential situations as if it's a life or death situation, when it's not. Me making an ugly drawing is not as big of a deal as I'm making it out to be). "Nobody Cares" This one may sound negative, but coming from my background, it helps me relieve pressure. Nobody cares if I make an ugly piece of art, but this ugly piece of art will help me get better in the long run. "I am a Robot". Sometimes when I lose motivation and have to get a certain task done, I just pretend I'm a robot that needs to complete the task without hesitation or emotion (this is super silly and I can't believe I'm sharing this).

SVS has also had big impact! Reading everyone's view points and being able to commiserate with others on similar hangups is a huge help. Thank you fellow SVSers!

[Neha Rawat]

Thank you, @Mike-C for starting this wonderful thread! Self doubt is certainly an emotion that everyone faces at some point in their life, no matter how far down the road they may be. It becomes crippling when you’re not able to think of the flip side and you just dig yourself deeper in your own grave. The best thing to do at this time is ask for help. And you’ve done exactly that so you’re already on the right path! It’s perfectly ok to look to others for support, and with time you learn to pick yourself up. Just like what Vanessa said about a baby learning to walk. They start with help from their parents till they’re able to walk on their own. This doesn’t mean that they won’t fall again even though they know how to walk, so doubts will always be a part of life. But it’s about getting up and walking again, with, or without help.
Interestingly, if you follow Pascal Campion’s work, he occasionally posts about self doubt And other such struggles too. I mean, you would imagine that a brilliant illustrator such as himself would have everything sorted right? But no. He’s human, just like us, walking on the same road, just a little ahead. With time, he’s learnt to pick himself up, as will you with the right mindset

[cristamay]

Hi Mike!
I've always drew since I was a kid like you but during and the arts baccalaureate it stopped being funny because we had to draw for the sake of filling a 90 page sketchbook every 3 months I guess so I got sick of making drawings like a machine. So the following 8-ish years (university+master+not thinking about drawing) I only drew for class assignments until I started to journal-drawing and making tiny comics of funny things that happened to me only for fun and trying new media but I always struggled with the starting part (sketching blabla) so I tried digital drawing with an oldie wacom bamboo I had from the master and it was hard in the beginning until you get used to it but then it was great! Ctrl+z is a good friend.
It really was life changing when I got my iPad (the regular one, not the pro). Everything feels easier and more natural to me as I can mess without worrying about wasting nice materials plus I have all the colors in the rainbow and looooots of tools and textures and I don't need space to store different materials. I feel that now I have all the tools I needed to achieve what I want to make because for example I realised that my sketching process is not linework as usually people do on paper: I start blocking shapes and then linework (which you can guess it's not that easier using pen and paper...).
Sorry for the super long story but in the end I meant that you have to just try things and find what fits you. You are only drawing for fun so don't put so much pressure on it!
The only thing you have to do to make it something regular on your everyday is start drawing maybe an hour a day then a little bit more and so on. It's like exercising a muscle.
I hope this helps you in someway.

[LauraA]

Wow, you've gotten a lot of great advice from people who are really good, and yet still battle with self-doubt! I have a feeling that self-doubt is simply part of the artistic territory. I was asking some friends just yesterday how it could be that I spend so much time on each piece I make and still hate them by the time I finish, because...they no longer feel spontaneous and fun! In fact, today I woke up with the specific goal of getting the spontaneity and fun back.

I really do think part of the problem is feeling pressure to make a go of art. Everyone has reasons that they might put pressure on themselves. Mine are that I am not young (not even close) and that I have some family members' voices in my head whom I have to ignore. Also, I see so much great art out there and think, "How do they work well so fast?" And being fast, they get more practice and improve, etc.

Two things keep me going: One is that when I see a really good illustration it just makes me happy and makes me want to do one myself. I don't feel that way about anything else other than doing volunteer work with people (which is a nice changeup from drawing alone all week and teaching English). The other is knowing that the only way to get better is to keep trying. For this reason every now and then I go back and look at my work from 2-3 years ago and think, "Hey, you did get better!" And that gives me the courage to go on.

So what I would say is, if at all possible just silence that voice in your head for now and give yourself time to play with as little self-judgment as possible. Don't worry about posting on social media, etc. If it helps, say, "I'm going to give myself a year." Or six months, or whatever you think you can realistically carve out in your life. Then, at the end of that time, I'm betting you will look back and see improvement, which hopefully will give you the encouragement to keep going!

P.S. Does anyone remember which SVS podcast had the four stages of becoming a professional artist? It outlined how long it will probably take for each stage and what you should concentrate on during each. It seems very relevant to this conversation.

P. P. S. There is also a graphic that floats around on social media that shows the artistic cycle of learning and confidence. I don't know where to find it, but the point was that when you feel less confident, it's often because you are learning so much!

[nadyart]

@Mike-C Have you heard about the books of Austin Kleon? They are full of wonderful anecdotes and ways to break through creative blocks. Their titles: "Steal like an artist", "Show your work", and "Keep Going". The last one being the best for your particular questions Good luck!

[Rachel Horne]

@Mike-C Oh my goodness, totally! I think the key is to try not to think too hard and just do it. My technical skills are not great and I regularly have those feelings of wondering if I'll ever be up to scratch but then I think that every day not drawing is one day less of getting better. I don't know if it's something you already do but maybe take out a sketchbook and do some observational drawing - since it's quick it might encourage you to loosen up and not be so hard on yourself. But know this, you are not alone!

[ArlMon]

@Mike-C Hi! I can totally relate to what you're saying. I'm getting back into drawing after years of not making any art because I was scared to put pencil to paper. Anytime I did try to sketch or draw something I was so ashamed of the result I gave up immediately, I wasn't able to let myself play and experiment and be ok with my mistakes.

What changed everything for me bizarrely was taking acting classes. I wanted to do something that I was afraid of (speaking in public) and by chance found a great teacher whose mantra was "never judge anyone, especially not yourself".

So the fact of being a beginner/learning a new skill meant for sure I made a lot of mistakes! But because I was in a group of non-judgemental people who were very supportive I was able to relax and laugh at myself again and have fun, and this spilled over into my private life.

Those classes have given me so much more confidence and I met a lot of creative people there which was what I needed too- to get out of my "bubble" and see new things to get inspired again.

Everyone is different but I think getting out of your comfort zone, facing your fears and trying new things is a huge help. The fact that you want to progress and grow means you care and you will succeed I wish you all the best!

[Coreyartus]

@Mike-C Here are some more books:

1st: I echo @nadyart 's suggestion of Austin Kleon's three books. They're fantastic! I buy them and give them as gifts, and have several copies of each. They're SO worth it. They're on Amazon but his website is HERE.

2nd: The War of Art by Stephen Pressfield. This is incredibly powerful and has had a profound impact on many many of today's creatives, regardless of their particular discipline or field. Stephen Pressfield's website is Here.

3rd: Art and Fear by David Bayles and Ted Orland. There's no specific website for this, but WOW there are a lot of reviews about it--do a Google search and you'll see. It's a great book, much along the lines of Pressfield's book. SO worth it, in my opinion.

4th: I think this Cory Kerr video on YouTube directly addresses some of the instances you're articulating. I enjoy his YouTube Channel, as well as [Dan Ekis's](link url). If you spend a bit of time you can find the folks that speak to you and drop the ones that just don't. Will and Jake and now Lee all have channels of their own. But I've found a lot of inspirational people on there that simply weren't as inspirational as I thought they were and they become a bit bombastic and pontificating... It runs hot and cold, but you might find some there that click. I listen to them while I draw a lot of the time.

Hope these help!