Thank you @Heather-Boyd for feedback I like the new image better because of you-thanks!ellie.jpg

Ultimate basher, Kuski. https://www.kuksi.com/ Looks so fun, might have to try it someday.

@Marsha-Kay-Ottum-Owen I like the 'donut sprinkle' effect in the third one, and was wondering if that could be applied to the second option with the fish on a platter? Also, the orange 'commotion' bubble could be placed in such a way that the fish is seen a wee bit more clearly. Other than that, I love the second option! Great work! 🙂 Just noticed the dog's long tongue on the cat's face! That's hilarious!

@davidhohn thanks David, it sounds like their book’s so good you can get by on it without having to join.

Adorable. I'm reading the T in "the" as an X though. Might want to rotate that just a bit or redraw the T. Could be just me.

@neschof that’s a really good comment, thank you Nicola. Looking at your post and the images you’ve used, I think you could put different types of playful perspective into very different categories.
I’ve been looking at perspective on and in buildings and I think even straight line perspective is an illusion, especially when you look at it as it travels beyond your field of view, so that you have to move your eyes along it. It tends to curve off. Like fish eye but not as severe.
I guess for illustrators, how we use distortion comes back to how we use it for story telling.
(Still figuring out how to do this)

Please let me know how this goes for you.

The only brush I REALLY was hoping I could bring over effectively was my water color brushes, but they did not translate properly because the mechanics didn't match up.

Awesome! Thanks Kristin!

@charitymunoz One expert I read says it depends on who you want to be the star. Whichever is most important should get first rendering .

@BichonBistro thanks so much for the praise and letting me know.

Will Terry has a couple YouTube vids that talk about his early forays with editorial illustration, and I think both Lee White and Jake Parker have also mentioned in various 3-Point Perspective podcasts that they have also done editorial work. I think it's very rare that any illustrator does just one type of illustration for one particular aspect/flavor of the industry if they're trying to make a living at it...

There are some books that discuss editorial work (illustration: Meeting the Brief by Alan Male and Becoming a Successful Illustrator by Derek Brazell and Jo Davies) that might offer some insight, maybe? I'm still working my way through both of them. They seem very broad, covering a LOT of options for multiple revenue streams and vocations.

I think you're instincts are correct, though. Getting a list of publications you'd like to work for, then finding the correct contact person to whom to send postcards, then getting them sent is a great first step. It sounds archaic, but weirdly, it seems everyone says postcards seem to be more effective than email. I think it has to do with having an "artifact" that requires an action to pin up somewhere or collect or throw away or put somewhere.

@KathrynAdebayo Thank you. I think it has improved 🙂

@Whitney-Simms best of luck. Be sure to share your process.

@Coreyartus I like a good soapbox pontification!

Thanks for bringing this into such clear context. When I was listening to the podcast, I was thinking of the list in terms of comics and graphic novels (because that's what I think I want to do with my writing and illustration). I'm a writer first, and have studied Blake Snyder, Joseph Campbell, etc. so I'm definitely coming at this question with a bit of a bias.

That being said, I definitely have a hard time enjoying a comic as a reader if I don't love the art. Conversely, I've also found that no matter how good the art is, if the writing is bad, the turd won't polish, so to speak.

While listening I jotted down the elements and their original order, then tried to think of where I could move spectacle up to. I found I couldn't budge it up the ladder past even dialogue (music, of course, is a non-entity in print).

I think from a reader's perspective, the list of elements are less hierarchical, and more like nodes in a geodesic structure - each one as important as the next. But from a creator's perspective, I take Aristotle's order as gospel in terms of what you need to have nailed down before you can move to the next bit.

Last minute thought: In illustrated texts, music could be translated as "atmosphere" in the art. The mood of a panel/page.

@Nathalie-Kranich
I think the risk of working with an independent author is a communication challenge. If you work with an art director or editor, they have experience of working with illustrators, and many of them are very visual and able to read your rough sketches with a line of the description and understand where you are heading with a piece. It is very hard to know if an independed author is able to do that, or express what she wants and need clearly.

If I take a commission like this, I would

Try to learn as much as I can about the author herself, asking if she is interested in visual art, and maybe even ask her to provide the kind of book cover or art in general that she loves.

Show my process step by step. I sent a book cover illustration process I did (from SVS book cover illustration class) to my client before I took a job. It helped so much to clarify what I mean by rough sketches, color study, and final art. I let the client approve each step (I did not show the thumbnails to the client, only rough sketches and onwards) before moving to the next phase to avoid revision and extra work.

XinLi_process.jpg

you can add a change fee in the contract: for example if she approved the rough sketch, and then later she wants to make a big change, then you can charge an extra fee for the changes.

Hope this is useful.

Thanks for sharing!

Anyone else have anything significant they found in the new app?

The biggest thing I'm seeing is the speed of the brushes are WAY faster and more fluid. Aside from the quality of life changes and animation additions I've found I'm using it much the same way.

Hi Brad, we are moving away from the purchase option. The new classes will not be available for purchase. But if you have bought a class already it will be yours forever.

@peteolczyk It's great that you are going to try a little keyboard. I think that all of the creative arts feed one another and I'll be interested to hear what you learn from doing this.

Pantone Color of the Year: Classic Blue!
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this color!!!! And I can already see so many possibilities...