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    Group run through creative environment design week 6 art and feedback

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    • braden H
      braden H last edited by

      Okeedokee! I finally get to play in my local DND game, so I'm all into the generic fantasy settings. I may finish this one day!

      The puzzle pieces I'm trying to juggle: Composition (thirds and fifths) silhouette, balance, proportion (thirds and fifths again) and value. Are there any principles I'm forgetting off the top of my head?

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      • JerrySketchyArt
        JerrySketchyArt last edited by

        Planning to paint this eventually, but since this class is on design I'm going to call this homework complete.

        Side note: The odd cropping and extra space on the outside are due to game design best practices. We have to plan for a wide range of aspect ratios (think ultra wide screen vs an old 4:3 TV screen) which can shift the visible area by a decent bit.

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        • JerrySketchyArt
          JerrySketchyArt @demotlj last edited by

          @demotlj This is a really nice scene! Even with scribbled in characters the story is really there. I think the floor tiles should be larger in the middle and get closer together as you go out though.

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          • demotlj
            demotlj SVS OG @JerrySketchyArt last edited by

            @JerrySketchyArt I assume you mean the horizontal floor lines not the vertical ones. The tiles against the far wall are much smaller than those in front but I didn't increase the size evenly as they come closer. I'll have to fix that.

            Laurie DeMott
            instagram.com/demotlj

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            • JerrySketchyArt
              JerrySketchyArt @demotlj last edited by

              @demotlj Both lines should get closer together as distance from the viewer increases. The ones in front of the camera should be the most square. Example:

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              • demotlj
                demotlj SVS OG @JerrySketchyArt last edited by

                @JerrySketchyArt On the vertical lines, I just followed the Procreate perspective tool so those should be right but the perspective tool doesn't space the horizontal lines and I admit I was just eying that... badly! (Some of it may be that I wasn't thinking of the tiles as being square but as rectangular.)

                Laurie DeMott
                instagram.com/demotlj

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                • JerrySketchyArt
                  JerrySketchyArt @demotlj last edited by

                  @demotlj I'm yet to find a good tool for quickly creating grid lines. Clip Studio has perspective rulers too, but it doesn't force proper spacing either. Argh! My solution is to find/make a checkered square grid. Import that grid and do a "free transform" into the shape of the floor/wall/ceiling/whatever. Then you can use that as a guide for your marks. πŸ™‚ If you want more rectangular lines just add an extra line down the middle. Example over your drawing:

                  (Random grid from google)
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                  Free Transform to match floor/wall lines
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                  Draw lines with grid for better estimation
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                  Rectangular floor tiles in perspective
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                  • demotlj
                    demotlj SVS OG @JerrySketchyArt last edited by demotlj

                    @JerrySketchyArt That does look better. I think the problem is that the perspective lines aren't supposed to be used for spacing like I was doing whereas your method keeps that spacing. Thanks -- I'm going to try that.

                    Laurie DeMott
                    instagram.com/demotlj

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                    • demotlj
                      demotlj SVS OG last edited by

                      I’m going to call this done. It’s still very rough (don’t look at it too closely) and I will add other characters, tweak the placement of things, and improve the line art but for this exercise, I think this is as far as I need to go. I really had to think about interior design more than I ever have before so it was really a helpful exercise.
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                      Laurie DeMott
                      instagram.com/demotlj

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                      • Coley
                        Coley last edited by

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                        starting my subjective final. I decided on doing an interior just because it moved me when I had the idea lol. I had the idea of doing something that I would have loved as a kid. and that was to have a window in my room that opened to either a paddock or a stall for my pony! So these are my thumbnail ideas. Very open to feedback! I tried to keep perspective and rule if thirds etc in mind but I have been struggling with it too. new to all this. any advice appreciated. p.s. am online now watching the live event! exciting!

                        https://www.instagram.com/nicoleledrewmay/

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                        • braden H
                          braden H @Coley last edited by

                          @Coley Neat! What kind of mood or feeling are you goin' for?

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                          • Coley
                            Coley @braden H last edited by

                            @Braden-Hallett I'm thinking something sort of like childhood dream come true lol. Basically a horse crazy kid's bedroom with lots of horsie decor. Horse themed bed comforter, pair of riding boots on the floor or something, horse poster and horse show ribbons. Basically my childhood dream room Ha ha. I don't know if that's what you mean by theme or mood? The child might be around 10 or 12. I guess for subjective the mood is quite important....is fun a mood lol? I'm really new to illustration so not being completely married to reference and just thinking about if I like the look of my piece rather than what story it tells is all new to me. But exciting. Any other feedback or questions that get me thinking harder are welcome!

                            https://www.instagram.com/nicoleledrewmay/

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                            • Coley
                              Coley last edited by

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                              Another thumbnail I just did. Liking where this one is starting to go. Gonna do a bunch more tomorrow. I've spent the last two days reviewing most of the videos in the course ( except crits) so I could remember concepts while I tried to figure out thumbnails. I'm sure I'm missing stuff but I've rarely ever done this kind of thing and I'm really so darned excited!

                              https://www.instagram.com/nicoleledrewmay/

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                              • Coley
                                Coley last edited by

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                                tonal possibilities for different lighting scenarios......think I'm maybe going with the first one but starting to work on an intermediate sketch first. Gonna leave the horse/unicorn etc out for now. Might just develop this environment and do another with characters later. I am not an environment gal so this is excellent practice

                                https://www.instagram.com/nicoleledrewmay/

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                                • Erin.Cortese
                                  Erin.Cortese Moderator @braden H last edited by

                                  @Braden-Hallett Just seeing this for the first time, this looks great! Your work always seems so effortless, its both intimidating and inspiring. Every time I look at one of your pieces I am reminded I need to loosen up.

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                                  • Erin.Cortese
                                    Erin.Cortese Moderator last edited by

                                    Ok so being short on time last month and being that I fell behind, I used one of my earlier exercises for my subjective composition. I am excited about this one because I am going to be experimenting with something kinda cool.

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                                    • Coley
                                      Coley @Erin.Cortese last edited by

                                      @Erin-Cortese this hits all the marks for me. The shadow is pretty cool!

                                      https://www.instagram.com/nicoleledrewmay/

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                                      • Erin.Cortese
                                        Erin.Cortese Moderator @Coley last edited by

                                        @Coley Thank you! My husband had a look and said the power lines look like they do not attach to anything, like he could not imagine the placement of the pole outside the frame. Did you get that feeling too? I put them where they looked best in the composition, but if it’s not believable I think I need to move them 😞

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                                        • Coley
                                          Coley @Erin.Cortese last edited by

                                          @Erin-Cortese I think I can see what he means now. He may have a point (sorry πŸ˜› ) . If I try to imagine where the pole is then I feel like it should be in the frame. Or if the pole is off frame, then the right hand side of the lines needs to be reaching lower into the space (if that makes sense?) . That being said, if there is a border of some sort on the finished piece it might just seem to connect to the border and not float in space, as right now it just goes off into the white space. Hopefully that is not confusing? Now that I am looking at it more closely, I wonder if varying the size of the two front bushes in relation to each other would be better or have one more back in space? But I think it is really cool and looking forward to where it goes πŸ™‚

                                          https://www.instagram.com/nicoleledrewmay/

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                                          • braden H
                                            braden H @Erin.Cortese last edited by

                                            @Erin-Cortese Ominous! πŸ™‚ I think you could safely remove the power cables and it wouldn't hurt.

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