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    • J
      jdubz last edited by jdubz

      Do you have the CC subscription? The reason being is Kyle's brushes now come with it, and his water color brushes are the best I've ever seen/used (at least so far).

      I'm wondering if he used smoothing pens for some of the sweeping things like the tail on the iPad - Procreate has some built in smooth inking brushes that you might not be able to replicate without doing a lot of shorter, quicker lines.

      The gradient in procreate would be pretty easy because you'd just need to lay down some quick splotches of color, then use the smudger. Frankly the smudge tool in procreate is better than any other program by lightyears.

      Was the reason you did it in sketchbook is because you were doing it on the ipad? Just curious if this was the iOS version or the desktop version.

      ** Edit - after looking at it, I bet you he's getting that watercolor/gouache look solely based on the smudge tool.

      Josh White
      https://www.instagram.com/joshwhiteillustration/

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      • ArtofAleksey
        ArtofAleksey @chrisaakins last edited by ArtofAleksey

        @chrisaakins im gonna do master studies too in 2020 after all these other fun assignments are done. Im going to collect a few pieces from the same artist and ONLY DO the line work. Try to figure out how they do it.

        Then ONLY DO the colors, figuring out how they chose them what works with what, maybe i don’t actually like their colors?

        Then ONLY DO composition studies in values

        And do each one quick, if you think you messed up dont massage it, just start over. Remember you’re not trying to make it look good, you’re trying to learn how the artist makes decisions. No one needs to see this this is for your own benefit.

        By doing it traditionally you force yourself to only focus on those individual parts and prevent yourself from using the undo button.

        ALSO because you limit yourself to the tool, paper, and the goal, you learn it a lot faster and you can then apply it to your digital art after you figure it out.

        (This is my plan for the approach)

        instagram and twitter: @artofaleksey
        alekseyillustration.com

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        • demotlj
          demotlj SVS OG @jdubz last edited by

          @jdubz Could you describe a little more of what you mean by using Procreate's smudge tool to emulate watercolor? I use Procreate and have yet to find any watercolor brushes for it that come close to traditional watercolor and would love to be able to get a better watercolor effect in Procreate.

          Laurie DeMott
          instagram.com/demotlj

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          • ArtofAleksey
            ArtofAleksey last edited by

            It kinda looks like they chose a gray and then a blend mode (my guess is “color” or “multiply” in a layer. And perhaps lowered the opacity. It looks like an airbrush was used to paint it but I could be wrong.

            I usually try using the gauche brush to simulate a watercolor texture.

            instagram and twitter: @artofaleksey
            alekseyillustration.com

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            • Judy Elizabeth Wilson
              Judy Elizabeth Wilson SVS OG last edited by

              @chrisaakins How much effort does it take to make a break through in your art? I was thinking of this today. I did an art challenge last week and now started a new project which needs a ton of research, sketchbook work, hard thinking and what feels like starting from scratch again. Keep up your hard work, new attempts, experimenting, it will always take you up to your next new level. When you get up there you'll take a break, admire the view and then be thinking about the next highest branch. So much to explore. Keep going Chris. This exercise is great and moving in the right direction.

              Website http://www.judyelizabethwilson.com/

              Instagram https://www.instagram.com/judyelizabethart/

              Sharing positivity through art.

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                jdubz @demotlj last edited by

                @demotlj Not so much actual watercolor behavior, but more specific to the blending look in the source drawing above. When he said "watercolor/gouache" I'm assuming it's the blending of the colors which does have a bit of a watercolor feel to it (but it's definitely not straight up watercolor).

                I'm REALLY looking forward to the procreate 5 update when we might actually see real water color brushes 🙂

                Josh White
                https://www.instagram.com/joshwhiteillustration/

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                • chrisaakins
                  chrisaakins last edited by

                  Here is take two also in sketchbook. Not feeling PS right now. I did find an inking brush I love. Much better. Still have no idea how to color.
                  ron kosa masterstudy attempt 2.jpg

                  Things that worked :
                  I liked the lines I got. I am satisfied that I could create the lines he got with enough practice, but I like my linework so no need.
                  The anatomy is better. I still like the ethereal quality he created.

                  I can't figure out a good textured shadow brush.

                  Chris Akins
                  www.chrisakinsart.com
                  www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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                  • chrisaakins
                    chrisaakins @Judy Elizabeth Wilson last edited by

                    @Judy-Elizabeth-Wilson It took a month or two for me to get really comfortable with my new linework style. It's a sketchy style that allows for fluidity and expression. I feel like that was a major breakthrough. I am a quick study on many things, so I think that is why I am very frustrated with my digital work. If I had done the study in pencil and then in Copic and ink I think I could have nailed it the first time. But dang it the digital pen does not have the same feel as ink on paper. It makes it frustratingly slow for me.

                    And coloring. Ugh. this is a great opportunity for me to grow. I REALLY wish I could take a few hours with someone over my shoulder teaching me how to properly use the layers and what they can do. I also need to be patient. I feel like I am learning a new language and I sound really stupid when I am used to sounding like I know what I am talking about. How prideful is that??? Ha!

                    So like I said this is a good lesson for me to learn. Maybe it will help me be a better art teacher to my students.

                    @Aleksey that sounds like a good plan. I feel like I have a lot of the basics of drawing and composition down but I need to learn the technical aspects of creating digital art. Too bad I don't live in New York. I would love to meet up and trade advice and draw together.

                    @jdubz I do. I had begun to feel so overwhelmed by it that I thought I would learn a lot of the basic techniques on a simpler program that has many of the same capabilities. I see my students using Procreate with ease. Maybe I should talk my wife into getting a new iPad Pro and then steal it for ProCreate. 🙂 But I know that I really just need to bite the bullet and learn CC.

                    Sorry for all the complaining. I really do appreciate everyone listening to me in my struggles!

                    Chris Akins
                    www.chrisakinsart.com
                    www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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                    • braden H
                      braden H @chrisaakins last edited by

                      @chrisaakins Oh wow! Much improved already! And don't feel bad about your first one not looking right. My first master study was... truly awful, lol

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                      • chrisaakins
                        chrisaakins @braden H last edited by

                        @Braden-Hallett you should post it. BARE YOUR SOUL!!!

                        Chris Akins
                        www.chrisakinsart.com
                        www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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                        • ArtofAleksey
                          ArtofAleksey @chrisaakins last edited by

                          @chrisaakins procreate has a free artist handbook you can download on ibooks or from their website. I read it it’s great and some things translate over to photoshop. Also Udemy gives you like 75% off on your first online class, I bought a photoshop class (it’s a design class but still) was $12

                          instagram and twitter: @artofaleksey
                          alekseyillustration.com

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                          • Kasey Snow
                            Kasey Snow last edited by

                            I love it! This is encouraging, I've just started doing master studies again and BOY am I rusty!
                            I kinda wanna do a thread like this of my own, or maybe there could be a community thread for everyone to post theirs in?

                            I think your second take is REALLY close, huge leap there from the first one. Right on!

                            http://kaseysnow.com ~ https://instagram.com/KaseySnowArt/ ~ https://twitter.com/KaseySnowArt ~ https://www.patreon.com/KaseySnow ~

                            SVS forum sketchbook: https://forum.svslearn.com/topic/9846/kasey-s-sketchbook ~
                            ~Kasey

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                            • Nyrryl  Cadiz
                              Nyrryl Cadiz SVS OG @chrisaakins last edited by

                              @chrisaakins you almost got it. I can see that you need more work on the form but you’re in the right direction.

                              Portfolio: nyrrylcadiz.com
                              Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nyrryl_cadiz/
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                              • burvantill
                                burvantill Moderator @chrisaakins last edited by

                                @chrisaakins Great improvement! I was going to say, don't be so hard on yourself, it's only the first one, but you whipped out the second try before I could encourage. lol. 👏👏👏

                                Lisa Burvant
                                www.lisaburvant.com
                                Instagram & Twitter & SVS: @burvantill

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                                • Chip Valecek
                                  Chip Valecek SVS Team SVS OG last edited by

                                  @chrisaakins Just like mine the first one is always a kick to the gut LOL. But with your first one I can see you are headed on the right path. Compare your first to your second. Huge improvement already.

                                  When I was working on mine, I already had some gumroad tutorials from Matt Dixon which really helped me understand the way he colors/paints his pieces. Do you know if your artist has something like that just to catch his process?


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                                  • DOTTYP
                                    DOTTYP @chrisaakins last edited by

                                    @chrisaakins Your second study is much improved and the line work is really good. If you have trouble with linework in digital try Lazy Nezumi it will plug into photoshop and Autodesk sketchbook and gives very stable line work or you can do the line work traditionally and then scan it and colour it.

                                    scribbles.artstation.com
                                    www.instagram.com/dottypaints

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                                    • TessaW
                                      TessaW last edited by

                                      Great job @chrisaakins. Are you utilizing the eraser tool at all in helping with edges and gradients between light and shadow?

                                      Website: www.tessawrathall.com

                                      Instagram: www.instagram.com/tessawrathall_art/

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                                      • demotlj
                                        demotlj SVS OG last edited by

                                        Super improvement. I wish I could learn from my mistakes that quickly!

                                        Laurie DeMott
                                        instagram.com/demotlj

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                                        • chrisaakins
                                          chrisaakins @TessaW last edited by

                                          @TessaW No??? Is that a thing? Like I use the eraser tool if I bleed into an area I don't mean to, but that is all. Is there another technique?

                                          Chris Akins
                                          www.chrisakinsart.com
                                          www.instagram.com/chrisakinsart/

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                                          • TessaW
                                            TessaW @chrisaakins last edited by

                                            @chrisaakins Have you ever done charcoal drawings, where you use a kneaded eraser to get soft highlights and transitions back into the drawing, or use a harder rubber eraser to get sharper details? It's sort of the same concept.

                                            For example, on your master-study's torso- you could have shaded that in, in one solid block, and gone in with a large soft eraser to get that soft gradation from light to shadow. Additionally, you could go into the face with a small hard eraser and erase in some hard edges between the light and shadow. This is of course if you have a separate layer on top of a base.

                                            It's one way of many to work, but it does end up being a pretty efficient process, in my opinion.

                                            Here's a video- starting around 1:40 shows one way to use this:

                                            https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/hard-and-soft-shadow-edges

                                            Website: www.tessawrathall.com

                                            Instagram: www.instagram.com/tessawrathall_art/

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