How are people feeling about Art AI?
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I think AI can and will become a very useful tool to all creatives. I was a little skeptical of it at first, in regards to using it as a tool (or at all), but after reading Jake Parker's take on it and seeing what he did with just playing around with his Skullchaser character, I decided to mess around with the Midjourney AI. It was a bit daunting. In 10 minutes I received over 100 images that I could use to enhance or inspire my own art, or straight up steal from
. The images that I chose to have the AI enhance turned out so incredibly wonderful that I am absolutely positive that I will be borrowing from them for my own original art. The images gave me IDEAS! Ideas that I would not have come up with on my own. I don't think that artists should be worried. I think using AI well, will still take a certain level of creativity. I do think that artists should at the very least play with the beta versions that are out right now, so that you can see what I saw and not be afraid, but quite possibly be excited by the results. =)x -
I feel like its a tool that we can learn to use to our advantage. Like so many of you have said already, it can only regurgitate old ideas, styles, themes, etc. New innovations, styles, techniques can still only be generated by real humans. However, I do wonder how much the art world will be changed by it. Will those who learn to use it as a tool be more competitive in the future market, just like it's become necessary to know digital programs like photoshop in our current market? I think as an artist it's important to be adaptable and open to experimenting with new ideas and techniques, and AI (at the moment at least!) counts as one. And who knows? Maybe it will make art created by real people more valuable? Kind of like artisan made bread.
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My fiance and I were talking about this subject last night (in the context of the myth that Walt Disney was frozen so that he could be resurrected later, haha). The thing AI can't replicate is a soul or the "human factor" as some would call it. The day AI can...well we should be scared
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This is such a strange topic. I felt really punched in the gut when I first saw AI art. But after researching it a bit I feel artists can coexist with it. It could be a useful tool. I know that it is being used a lot right now for album art by bands and music artists. But I also feel like these artists are not rolling in cash and would not have been able to pay an artist to do the album art they wanted anyway. I think the jobs it is taking away from artists would be the bottom level fiver type jobs. Big projects that require editing and revisions won't be at risk. You still have to have a person that can make creative choices.
The main thing that concerns me is that this will make social media as an artist more obsolete. Its already so diluted and hard to get noticed on social and now we will be competing with accounts that will just post AI art and get more followers than actual artists.K.Flagg
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@K-Flagg Oh yeah, social media is an interesting one, I hadn't even considered that. The AI I have seen seems to have quite consistent "styles" as well so that I'm sure it could post very frequently and consistently to really nail the algorithm. That is a shame, but I admit to me social media is already a bit of a soulless rabbit hole, and as others have said more unique and personal styles with a person's context and humour will surely survive alongside this.
@burvantill Yeah! I've not played around with it yet but I am curious to do so - as much as AI scares me a little I don't think it's ever a smart idea to avoid new technologies. If the world moves on, we better move with it and see what benefit it can give us. I was thinking too that for early thumbnails or colour ideas AI could be really useful at quickly running through a few moods and elements, which could speed up the ideation process a lot.
A friend of mine ran one of my images of a cute monster in the woods listening in to two children in a tent reading a bedtime story, and in one of the AI's image variations the monster was chomping down on the tent XD It can quite accidentally propose new story ideas, which is quite fun.
@Nyrryl-Cadiz That it will learn context is my fear too XD At the moment I'm not worried by it, but technology is moving so fast. We'll always have art for ourselves, but I wonder if we'll soon be competing with cheaper AIs and our income is going to be harder to sustain. Maybe it will be a problem for the NEXT generation.
Thanks for everyone's input, really cool to hear what you think and your experiences with it so far. I also don't think Art directors have to fear for their jobs, but I do worry for the more entry-level concept artists or those trying to sell similarly styled art prints or make a career of their socials.
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@Nathalie-Kranich Just something else to keep an eye on with regards to AI would be the copyright and plagiarism issues. This video (AI Town hall hosted by Karla Ortiz & Concept Art Association) might be worth a watch:
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You can win in a state fairs' art competition with Art AI now.
https://petapixel.com/2022/09/01/ai-generated-artwork-wins-first-place-at-state-fair-enraging-artists/Better than a banana taped to a wall, I suppose.
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@willicreate Yeah, I saw that too! Felt very iffy about it...If it is in its own category it wouldn't be so bad, and I think it was a fine-art competition which I suppose is very open in terms of medium anyway, so I'm not sure how indicative that is of a wider problem yet.
Refining AI images like that might still take hours. Whether it took the years of painting/drawing/art practice is another question.
It was a very stunning image. Sadly. XD
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@willicreate What irked me is the guy thinks the artists that are mad are just being petty. If digital has to be its own category at fairs, then so should AI. I can't tell you how many times my digital work has been "othered" by the gallery/fine art/exhibition set (fine arts deserved financial awards for winning top prizes, but I got told to my face that digital didn't). What exactly is it about AI art that makes it more prestigious than digital then I wonder? Not to sound snobbish, maybe I just don't fully understand the process...but to me the "artist" didn't do the heavy lifting in this piece(?) The AI did
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I'm so behind that I thought your subject said, "How are people feeling about Art Al (as in Albert?)" I almost went to Youtube to see what this Al guy was posting.
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@willicreate I really loved reading your response, and the reference to the introduction of photography. Thanks!
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I came today to see if the new, big elephant in the room was already being mentioned in these SVS forums. I wasn't disappointed.
Now, while I do have my whole pack of mixed feelings about this whole thing, whatever I could add to the discussion Reimena Yee (a Malaysian - Australian illustrator) already wrote about, and in a much better way, that I possibly could. So I'll just leave the link here.
https://blog.reimenayee.com/the-rise-of-the-bots-the-ascension-of-the-human/
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@willicreate wow, that’s the worst. This would be like an art director getting an award for a piece made by a concept artist working under them.
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Much like an Andy acting as the sole credited artist, leaving the workshop apprentices intentionally undocumented. Maybe Art AI will be the latest ingenuity to the factory system.
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@lpetiti Perhaps the reverence Art AI is receiving over digital painting stems from public perception of Art being a consequence of innate talent and privilege. There are many who ridicule digital painting as a tool for lesser artists. Art AI, however, democratizes a once mystical community, bestowing everyone an ability to produce Art with a capital A. It is the perfect device for the concept over craft debate.
And I agree that Art AI should be judged in its own category.
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@Nathalie-Kranich The judges could have thought this was their Duchamp’s
moment. Can’t be the one to vote against progress. JK. I know don’t know the quality of work from the competition. It may have deserved best in show.I take relief in believing we can command Art AI to produce an image of a person crying, but the algorithms can’t determine the difference between tears of sorrow from that of joy.
Holograms haven’t replaced vocal artists, automated cooking machines haven’t replaced chefs, and robot vacuum cleaners haven’t replaced house cleaners. I'm a little worried about de-aged and digitally ressurected actors...
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We just did a 3PP podcast all about Ai based images. Should be a fun one to listen to hopefully! : )
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Just thought this was a funny meme and remembered this thread, hopefully you all get a kick out of it like I did.
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@AngelinaKizz I tried out Dall-E for the first time last week and got a girl with three arms. I think it will get better, though!
