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    • TessaW
      TessaW last edited by

      I have to agree with the others in that the message is not very clear, and it kind of reads counter to what you've stated you want to achieve. On it's own with no back story, I think it's an engaging image. It's mysterious and beautiful, with a slight edge to it. You could possibly continue down this path, and it would be an awesome illustration. If however, you are really trying to nail the theme of "TV expands your imagination/worldview", I think you'd need to go back to the drawing board.

      Website: www.tessawrathall.com

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      • peteolczyk
        peteolczyk @DarleneAnico last edited by

        @DarleneAnico Hi Darlene, I love the silhouette of the character.
        And well done for having the courage to get feedback. It sounds like a tricky thing to illustrate and it’s really good and positive that you’ve had some honest and direct feedback.
        Have you checked out the @Lee-White you tube videos tutorials. There’s a lot about emphasising the thumbnail and concept stage, which I’m realising is where the real work can be. It’s helped me a lot. There’s also a podcast by svs on great concepts.
        Best of luck with your artwork, can’t wait to see where you go with it.

        www.peteolczykillustrations.com

        www.instagram.com/pete_illustrations

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        • DarleneAnico
          DarleneAnico @Zachary Drenski last edited by

          @Zachary-Drenski @NessIllustration @TessaW @peteolczyk @Heather-Boyd

          Thanks for the feedback guys! Story is a hard thing for me to achieve or at least this story. In my head I wanted to add story her character so she's playing baseball and breaks the screen of the tv. She's floating because the fish are lifting her up in a sense. So it's more like she feels whisked away by what she's experiencing.

          Oh and what she’s holding is supposed to be a glass from the tv screen. I haven’t painted in the fish in yet but I want to to be in the TVs. Now I'm wondering if I should just ignore the story and finish the illustration because I do like it visually or try and figure out how to tell the story better. Should I make the foreground more prominent?

          How can I tell the story better?

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          • DarleneAnico
            DarleneAnico @peteolczyk last edited by

            @peteolczyk Yes that video was super helful. I spent about a week on just thumbnailing this concept and I feel like I'm very close to figuring it out. I'm going to go back to my thumbnailing stage and see if I can tell the story more clearly.

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            • peteolczyk
              peteolczyk @DarleneAnico last edited by

              @DarleneAnico I don’t know Darlene, it seems like a tough concept to illustrate, with a realistic style.
              I’m just wondering if being more abstract or surreal in your interpretation could give you more ideas and options.
              It sounds a bit like a brief for an editorial illustration.
              Could you get ideas from some editorial illustrators?
              If you like the piece anyway, why not keep it and develop it.
              Hope this helps in some way, can’t wait to see your next step.👍

              www.peteolczykillustrations.com

              www.instagram.com/pete_illustrations

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              • TessaW
                TessaW last edited by

                I think you could ditch the story if you wanted to. If it's a personal piece, I think it's ok to deviate from your initial idea and just let things unfold in different directions.

                Here would be my quick fixes if you wanted to keep the story line-

                • Tone down the magical lights of the back ground, keep it as blue gradient,. Emphasize the magic coming from the tv. Perhaps make a magical trail of fish going from the tv, swirling around the girl, and connecting to the piece floating in the air.

                • Put the baseball on the same ground plane as the tv, instead of behind the tv like you have it. This will help the viewer with the sequence of events. It's the baseball that smashed the tv.

                • Think about if you want the girl actually holding onto the broken piece of glass. The audience will perhaps cringe at the thought of her hands getting cut and bleeding on the glass. It might take away from the magic of the piece, unless you intentionally want us to make the connection of danger. Maybe she can just be reaching for it, and the magic of the fishes is the force that's making her float.

                Just my 2 cents- take them with a grain of salt!

                Website: www.tessawrathall.com

                Instagram: www.instagram.com/tessawrathall_art/

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                • DarleneAnico
                  DarleneAnico @peteolczyk last edited by

                  @peteolczyk That's a good idea. I'll look into editorials. Thank you😀

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                  • DarleneAnico
                    DarleneAnico @TessaW last edited by

                    @TessaW Hmm yeah I see. I'll take those into consideration as I rework the thumbnails. I really appreciate your feedback thank you😀

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                    • Zachary Drenski
                      Zachary Drenski last edited by

                      I'm looking forward to seeing where you take this illustration. It's totally fine to make a painting that looks mysterious or surreal, and there are people out there who love that kind of stuff, like me.

                      I guess it comes down to deciding what the illustration is going to be used for. I'm assuming that children's book editors want to see portfolio pieces where the story is more direct.

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                      • DarleneAnico
                        DarleneAnico last edited by

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                        So this is where I'm at with the image. I had to stop from this piece in order to finish some other ones. I've added a big fish And the fish on the TV screens are now more visible which I believe helps with the composition.

                        Critiques are welcome as I want to make this a print for an upcoming artshow.

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                        • theprairiefox
                          theprairiefox @DarleneAnico last edited by

                          @DarleneAnico just doing a quick read on this and using the strategy by @davidhohn of squinting it down, I noticed your values are really mixing. Once you squint the person merges into the background.

                          You might want to lighten the background or darken the person? Not 100% sure. But I am losing the person...

                          -The Prairie Fox
                          https://www.instagram.com/theprairiefox
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                          • DarleneAnico
                            DarleneAnico @theprairiefox last edited by

                            @theprairiefox hm ok I see what you mean im going to darken the person. Thank you!

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                            • DarleneAnico
                              DarleneAnico last edited by

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                              I’ve finished the illustration. I’m going to step away from it now and look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow.

                              Feedback is welcome😄

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                              • Heather Boyd
                                Heather Boyd @DarleneAnico last edited by

                                @DarleneAnico it is much improved and the colours are very on point for the mood of a calm and imaginative moment.

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                                Be blessed,

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                                • DarleneAnico
                                  DarleneAnico @Heather Boyd last edited by

                                  @Heather-Boyd thank you very much! And sorry for the late reply

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                                  • Coley
                                    Coley last edited by

                                    magical! very well done. hadn't peeked in before now but glad I did!

                                    https://www.instagram.com/nicoleledrewmay/

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